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    Re: U.S. Employers Add 169k jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Reagan didn't triple the debt.
    technically yes, he did, 900 billion to 2.6 trillion during his term but what we got for it made it worth it, something liberals will never understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    Hmmm considering Bush budget of 2009 which he signed? The simple facts are you are projecting some of Bushes bad decision on Obama. Plus you post mostly right wing nonsence. So what is your defence for Reagan and Bush. Obama got a bad hand dealt to him in 2009. Worse than Reagan even though the right love to paint a different picture. Obama has curbed spending and growth of the budget. There are many charts and stats to prove that not like you would even look at them.


    AIG that was Bushes final nail in the coffin he put America in!b You cannot pin that one on Obama unless you want to blame 9/11 on Obama as well.

    Obama’s Spending: ‘Inferno’ or Not?


    So sorry to burst your bubble also with the whole you are "new" here has no difference to the discussion it a deflection by you because simply Conservative have no business taking about the debt because they are to blame for a huge majority of it. That much is fact.
    Please, you are new here so tell me this is an act? Show me where the Bush budget was passed by Congress, you cannot because it wasn't. we operated on continuing resolutions until March 2009 when Obama signed that budget after adding to it. Those are the facts so if you want any credibility then do research before you post. I learned a long time ago to "Trust but verify" and if you adopted that attitude you will be more successful.

    Unlike you, I understand the U.S. economy and how the private sector works. Both Bush and Reagan believed in the private sector and the American people, Obama believes in the American govt being the solution to everyone else's problems. There are no consequences for failure in Obama's world.

    I asked you to cite your data and you come up with this, more opinions with nothing substantive. Where did Obama curb spending? When did Obama propose less spending than Bush or less spending than the year before? The current Obama budget was for 3.77 trillion dollars and that is an increase over last year's spending.

    You are right, AIG was part of the TARP bailout which I was against but Obama supported. Obama then put that bailout on steroids and added more to it.

    I gave you the link to the Treasury Data which obviously you ignored. what is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    Hmmm considering Bush budget of 2009 which he signed? The simple facts are you are projecting some of Bushes bad decision on Obama. Plus you post mostly right wing nonsence. So what is your defence for Reagan and Bush. Obama got a bad hand dealt to him in 2009. Worse than Reagan even though the right love to paint a different picture. Obama has curbed spending and growth of the budget. There are many charts and stats to prove that not like you would even look at them.


    AIG that was Bushes final nail in the coffin he put America in!b You cannot pin that one on Obama unless you want to blame 9/11 on Obama as well.

    Obama’s Spending: ‘Inferno’ or Not?


    So sorry to burst your bubble also with the whole you are "new" here has no difference to the discussion it a deflection by you because simply Conservative have no business taking about the debt because they are to blame for a huge majority of it. That much is fact.
    Please, you are new here so tell me this is an act? Show me where the Bush budget was passed by Congress, you cannot because it wasn't. we operated on continuing resolutions until March 2009 when Obama signed that budget after adding to it. Those are the facts so if you want any credibility then do research before you post. I learned a long time ago to "Trust but verify" and if you adopted that attitude you will be more successful.

    Unlike you, I understand the U.S. economy and how the private sector works. Both Bush and Reagan believed in the private sector and the American people, Obama believes in the American govt being the solution to everyone else's problems. There are no consequences for failure in Obama's world.

    I asked you to cite your data and you come up with this, more opinions with nothing substantive. Where did Obama curb spending? When did Obama propose less spending than Bush or less spending than the year before? The current Obama budget was for 3.77 trillion dollars and that is an increase over last year's spending.

    You are right, AIG was part of the TARP bailout which I was against but Obama supported. Obama then put that bailout on steroids and added more to it.

    I gave you the link to the Treasury Data which obviously you ignored. what is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTheEconomist View Post
    How much of the lower work force is accounted for with 300,000 people leaving for Social Security.
    Oh, come on now, how many people joined the work force to offset those claiming SS? How many people eligible for SS postponed retirement because they couldn't live on SS and their nestegg has been destroyed by the Obama economy? Do better research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    Came closer to tripling than he did doubling it!!! Big spend conservatives!!! Next you are gonna say Bush ran a surplus
    Question for you, when you buy a house what does that do to your debt? What did we get for that 1.7 trillion dollars in debt that Reagan is responsible for and why is it that 1.7 trillion added to the debt is worse than 6.4 trillion added to the debt? When you bought that house your assets went up, when the govt. got that 1.7 trillion in debt it got a peace dividend and 17 million new income earners thus taxpayers? What did we get for the Obama debt?

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    Re: U.S. Employers Add 169k jobs

    Think about it, Obamabots!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Sorry, don't buy it, the problem today is lack of leadership and a very poor economic plan. The stimulus failed because it did nothing to promote the private sector growth, Obamacare is a job killer, and our vacationing/golf playing President doesn't have the leadership skills to bring the two parties together. There was no war in 81-82 during a worse recession than this one but Reagan leadership and positive attitude brought us out of it quickly and created 17 million jobs.

    What you are seeing today is what happens when people think with their hearts and elect a totally unqualified community agitator to the highest office in the land. This "do as I say, not as I do" President is incompetent and a disaster.
    I did not say Obama had made things much better and his handling of a number of issues has been bad. The introduction of Obamacare, when the country is on the brink of recession was economic stupidity. That does not mean, however, that the crisis in which we are is his doing. It is not. It has been developing for two decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I did not say Obama had made things much better and his handling of a number of issues has been bad. The introduction of Obamacare, when the country is on the brink of recession was economic stupidity. That does not mean, however, that the crisis in which we are is his doing. It is not. It has been developing for two decades.
    The crisis we have today show lack of leadership and lack of any ability to unite this country. If you believe this country is more divided today than it was in the 80's you are mistaken. Reagan leadership and positive attitude led us out of that recession, which by the way was a double dip, and united this country like it was never united before. That is what good leadership will do.

    Reagan promoted the greatness of this country, Obama apologizes for it.

    Reagan promoted individual wealth creation and the private sector, Obama promotes massive growth in govt. and makes excuses for human failures.

    Reagan created a positive economic agenda whereas Obama is promoting the entitlement society.

    There is a real conflict here today thus Obama is the problem not the solution.

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    Re: U.S. Employers Add 169k jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The crisis we have today show lack of leadership and lack of any ability to unite this country. If you believe this country is more divided today than it was in the 80's you are mistaken. Reagan leadership and positive attitude led us out of that recession, which by the way was a double dip, and united this country like it was never united before. That is what good leadership will do.

    Reagan promoted the greatness of this country, Obama apologizes for it.

    Reagan promoted individual wealth creation and the private sector, Obama promotes massive growth in govt. and makes excuses for human failures.

    Reagan created a positive economic agenda whereas Obama is promoting the entitlement society.

    There is a real conflict here today thus Obama is the problem not the solution.
    You cite much of the Reagan myth yet ignore much of the Reagan reality:

    But after his initial victories on tax cuts and defense, the revolution effectively stalled. Deficits started to balloon, the recession soon deepened, his party lost ground in the 1982 midterms, and thereafter Reagan never seriously tried to enact the radical domestic agenda he'd campaigned on. Rather than abolish the departments of Energy and Education, as he had promised to do if elected president, Reagan added a new cabinet-level department--one of the largest federal agencies--the Department of Veterans Affairs.

    Though his budgets requested some cuts in some areas of discretionary spending, Reagan rapidly retreated and never seriously pushed them. As Lou Cannon, the Washington Post reporter who covered Reagan's political career for 25 years, put it in his masterful biography, President Reagan: The Role of a Lifetime, "For all the fervor they created, the first-term Reagan budgets were mild manifestos devoid of revolutionary purpose. They did not seek to 'rebuild the foundation of our society' (the task Reagan set for himself and Congress in a nationally televised speech of February 5, 1981) or even to accomplish the 'sharp reduction in the spending growth trend' called for in [his] Economic Recovery Plan." By Reagan's second term, the idea of seriously diminishing the budget was, to quote Stockman, "an institutionalized fantasy." Though in speeches Reagan continued to repeat his bold pledge to "get government out of the way of the people," government stayed pretty much where it was.
    "Reagan's Liberal Legacy" by Joshua Green

    Also note that Reagan increased the U.S. national debt 188.6% during his eight year term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    You cite much of the Reagan myth yet ignore much of the Reagan reality:



    "Reagan's Liberal Legacy" by Joshua Green

    Also note that Reagan increased the U.S. national debt 188.6% during his eight year term.

    http://www.skymachines.com/US-Nation...ental-Term.htm
    I didn't forget, just didn't find it important because debt without positive results is more of a problem than debt with positive results. It was Reagan leadership that got us out of the recession and it was what we are seeing today, the partisan attacks that hurt his second term agenda as well as his onset of Alzheimers that derailed his second term but that doesn't diminish the Reagan results but does provide fuel to those that don't understand those results.

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