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    San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure[W:208]

    San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure - ABC News
    San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure


    San Antonio's leaders on Thursday approved anti-bias protections for gay and transgender residents, over the disapproval of top Texas Republicans and religious conservatives who packed a City Council hearing and occasionally shamed supporters for comparing the issue to the civil rights movement.
    The 8-3 City Council vote in favor of the ordinance was a victory for gay rights advocates and for Democratic Mayor Julian Castro, a top surrogate of President Barack Obama. Castro has called the ordinance overdue in the nation's seventh-largest city, where there is a stronger current of traditionalism and conservatism than other major Texas cities that already have similar gay rights protections.
    San Antonio joins nearly 180 other U.S. cities that have nondiscrimination ordinances that prohibit bias based on sexual orientation or gender identity, according to the Human Rights Campaign.
    "This ordinance is about saying there are no second-class citizens in San Antonio," Castro said.
    backup link:San Antonio adopts disputed gay rights measure - Dallas News | myFOXdfw.com

    seems this stuff is spreading like wildfire, equality and ending discrimination is fanning out!

    with other recent victories and cases in NM
    Photographers Discriminated Against Gay Couple, Court Rules - Law Blog - WSJ
    and Oregon which have also made news and discrimination is losing.
    TODD'S AMERICAN DISPATCH: Christian bakery closes after LGBT threats, protests | Fox News

    Soon i hope these discrimination laws that include sexual orientation are nation wide, many states have them but many do not.

    Not sure if it will be picked off one by one or if equal gay rights will nationally happen first with gay marriage.

    anyway my state, PA is the only North West state not too but 12 out of 15 of its largest cities do

    1. Philadelphia* - pop. 1,526,006 (passed this law in 1954, amended 2002)
    2. Pittsburgh* - pop. 305,704 (passed this law in 1992, amended 2005)
    3. Allentown* - pop. 118,032 (passed this law in 1964, amended 2002)
    4.
    Erie (as part of Erie County) - pop. 101,786 (passed this law in 2002)
    5.
    Reading* - pop. 88,082 (passed this law in 1955, amended 2009)
    6.
    Scranton - pop. 72,485 (passed this law in 2003)
    7.
    Bethlehem* - pop. 71,329 (passed this law on June 21st, 2011)
    8.
    Lancaster* - pop. 55,381 (passed this law in 1991)
    10.
    Harrisburg* - pop. 47,196 (passed this law in 1992)
    12.
    York - pop. 40,862 (passed this law in 1998)
    13.
    State College* - pop. 38,420 (passed this law in 2008)
    15.
    Easton* - pop. 26,080 (passed this law in 2007)

    anyway congratulations San Antonio good job joining the places, cities and states that ending discrimination and practicing equality, hopefully more catch up soon!
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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    [h=1]San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure - ABC News[COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana]

    backup link:San Antonio adopts disputed gay rights measure - Dallas News | myFOXdfw.com

    seems this stuff is spreading like wildfire, equality and ending discrimination is fanning out!

    with other recent victories and cases in NM
    Photographers Discriminated Against Gay Couple, Court Rules - Law Blog - WSJ
    and Oregon which have also made news and discrimination is losing.
    TODD'S AMERICAN DISPATCH: Christian bakery closes after LGBT threats, protests | Fox News

    Soon i hope these discrimination laws that include sexual orientation are nation wide, many states have them but many do not.

    Not sure if it will be picked off one by one or if equal gay rights will nationally happen first with gay marriage.

    anyway my state, PA is the only North West state not too but 12 out of 15 of its largest cities do

    1. Philadelphia* - pop. 1,526,006 (passed this law in 1954, amended 2002)
    2. Pittsburgh* - pop. 305,704 (passed this law in 1992, amended 2005)
    3. Allentown* - pop. 118,032 (passed this law in 1964, amended 2002)
    4.
    Erie (as part of Erie County) - pop. 101,786 (passed this law in 2002)
    5.
    Reading* - pop. 88,082 (passed this law in 1955, amended 2009)
    6.
    Scranton - pop. 72,485 (passed this law in 2003)
    7.
    Bethlehem* - pop. 71,329 (passed this law on June 21st, 2011)
    8.
    Lancaster* - pop. 55,381 (passed this law in 1991)
    10.
    Harrisburg* - pop. 47,196 (passed this law in 1992)
    12.
    York - pop. 40,862 (passed this law in 1998)
    13.
    State College* - pop. 38,420 (passed this law in 2008)
    15.
    Easton* - pop. 26,080 (passed this law in 2007)

    anyway congratulations San Antonio good job joining the places, cities and states that ending discrimination and practicing equality, hopefully more catch up soon!
    I'm so sick of this sh*t. It's 2013 and we're still talking about gay rights? Who cares, give them the rights that they've always had because they are unalienable rights and move on. People that don't support gay rights, consider this...you are going to hear about stupid mini-victory stories like this over and over for the next 15 years, so just get it over with and don't put up a fight so we can move on to important sh*t.

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    PA is a North West state? When did they move? (just picking, not trying to derail the thread)

    I pretty much agree with what SBu wrote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    1.)PA is a North West state? When did they move? (just picking, not trying to derail the thread)
    2.) I pretty much agree with what SBu wrote.
    1.) lol sorry north east state, my mistake
    2.) well in ways i do to but until it happens ill be celebrating the road but yes instead of a back road here, and an alley there a mega interstate national highway just needs to open up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) lol sorry north east state, my mistake
    2.) well in ways i do to but until it happens ill be celebrating the road but yes instead of a back road here, and an alley there a mega interstate national highway just needs to open up.
    Maybe it's just me, but I just can't fathom why ANYONE in this country would have to fight for rights afforded to us ALL by the Constitution. It shouldn't even be a question, much less a debate or legal fight.

    But like I said, maybe its just me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but I just can't fathom why ANYONE in this country would have to fight for rights afforded to us ALL by the Constitution. It shouldn't even be a question, much less a debate or legal fight.

    But like I said, maybe its just me....
    well i agree but somehow some people have themselves falsely convinced that they either ALREADY have the same rights when they factually dont or that giving them equal rights will take away theirs.

    its actually interesting and mind boggling at the same time.

    but i agree in 2013 how do people support discrimination and fight against equal rights.

    its not just you, its NORMAL people also
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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but I just can't fathom why ANYONE in this country would have to fight for rights afforded to us ALL by the Constitution. It shouldn't even be a question, much less a debate or legal fight.

    But like I said, maybe its just me....

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    I don't know if I agree with the decision in the photography case. It would have required the photographers to actually attend the wedding, which they think is tied to bad magic or something. It's not the same as a recent wedding cake case. In the photography case, they would have had to actually be present in the ceremony, and they can have legitimate complaints about that. At the same time, though, anti-discrimination laws are generally good. So I'm not sure which way I would go on that particular case.

    As far as SBu's concerns over the droning argument, I'm glad it sticks around, mostly just because the GOP and their base made a huge push for legal, and even Constitutional, discrimination against homosexuals, and the backlash is damaging them. They hung the label of 'homophobe' around their own necks, and I'm glad they can't ditch it. They deserve the electoral costs of appealing to bigotry

    As for gay rights in general, and gay marriage in particular, I can't believe it's not legal in all states yet. There's no basis for discriminatory law against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    1.)I don't know if I agree with the decision in the photography case. It would have required the photographers to actually attend the wedding, which they think is tied to bad magic or something. In the photography case, they would have had to actually be present in the ceremony, and they can have legitimate complaints about that. At the same time, though, anti-discrimination laws are generally good. So I'm not sure which way I would go on that particular case.
    2.) It's not the same as a recent wedding cake case.

    3.) As far as SBu's concerns over the droning argument, I'm glad it sticks around, mostly just because the GOP and their base made a huge push for legal, and even Constitutional, discrimination against homosexuals, and the backlash is damaging them. They hung the label of 'homophobe' around their own necks, and I'm glad they can't ditch it. They deserve the electoral costs of appealing to bigotry

    4.) As for gay rights in general, and gay marriage in particular, I can't believe it's not legal in all states yet. There's no basis for discriminatory law against it.
    1.) dont have the full story but they arent begin forced to go to the wedding like by armed guard, supposedly they got a fine which is more than just for blatant discrimination and that's lucky for them.
    2,) the bakers did it right the second time, they learned from their mistake. They arent civil enough to play by public rules and laws so they moved their business to a private practice, that's one of their three common sense options.

    it works like this
    in the PUBLIC realm we all have to play by the same rules/laws of a public access business

    if a person is to bigoted and or uncivil to play by these rules the solutions are very easy and common sense based

    A.) you dont go into public access business
    B.) you dont do anything that may offend you so easily or its counterparts. IE if you are christian you cant say you wont do gay weddings but then do bar mitzvahs, you option is to do NOTHING religious
    C.) open up a private practice like out of your home or online like the bakery did

    they were smart and learned from their short sighted mistake, it was stupid to be a bakery and do wedding cakes and think you wouldnt get a wedding you disagreed with. So now they run there company on line so they arent public access and or dont know their customers. Liberty in tact.

    3.) well i partially agree there are many chrisitans and GOPers that are also appalled by bigotry and discrimination like this so its unfair to paint them all with the same brush. But having said that no matter who came up with it I am happy in ways that so many states "banned" eqyual rights for gays and gays marriage because when pushed in the courts thats actually going to make it easier to establish equal gay rights which is funny and poetic justice.

    4.) i think its pathetic also but its changing and id say 5 years max
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    I don't know if I agree with the decision in the photography case. It would have required the photographers to actually attend the wedding, which they think is tied to bad magic or something. It's not the same as a recent wedding cake case. In the photography case, they would have had to actually be present in the ceremony, and they can have legitimate complaints about that. At the same time, though, anti-discrimination laws are generally good. So I'm not sure which way I would go on that particular case.

    As far as SBu's concerns over the droning argument, I'm glad it sticks around, mostly just because the GOP and their base made a huge push for legal, and even Constitutional, discrimination against homosexuals, and the backlash is damaging them. They hung the label of 'homophobe' around their own necks, and I'm glad they can't ditch it. They deserve the electoral costs of appealing to bigotry

    As for gay rights in general, and gay marriage in particular, I can't believe it's not legal in all states yet. There's no basis for discriminatory law against it.
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