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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You do not think there should be laws against fake child porn? What if it is very realistic?

    You cannot hold your absolutist, personally defined, position without condoning such things.
    I love it when the libertarian delusions causes libertarians to take positions that every reasonable person knows are unrealistic

    It helps explain why libertarianism has been rejected by mankind throughout history.
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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's what I am trying to get it. How does Ikari's philosophy consider such examples?
    I believe he follows the pick-up basketball rule, no harm no foul (no law).

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Thank you for helping to demonstrate how utterly foolish libertarianism is
    How so? What Ikari wrote is correct. A child 'of age or legally emancipated' is an adult and can, therefore, be forced to do almost nothing by his/her parents.

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    More of your ideology I see. Okay, we'll pretend that the real world doesn't exist.

    For the sake of argument, based upon your "Harm" theory, could I open a child brothel if the parents sold their children to me and the children wanted to do the work and didn't feel that they were being harmed?
    Parents cannot sell their children to you. While on many fronts we seemingly treat children as property, they're not actually property.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's what I am trying to get it. How does Ikari's philosophy consider such examples?
    I have answered your question directly.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Parents cannot sell their children to you. While on many fronts we seemingly treat children as property, they're not actually property.
    Okay, so I don't buy them I just use them as small employees and the parents and children approve. Am I good now?

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's not morality, it's comments to proper use of government force.
    LOL! So when you said it was not "just", it had nothing to do with morality!!


    Government is inherently an amoral institution and cannot (or rather should not) be used to endorse personal morality.
    Yes, that would be morally wrong!

    The rights of the individual are what matter, and that is what government is created to protect.
    Public accommodations are not individuals.

    Then perhaps you can lay out this demonstration, yes?
    See Heart of Atlanta Motel Inc. v. United States
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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Okay, so I don't buy them I just use them as small employees and the parents and children approve. Am I good now?
    In many cases you could be. In the case of child prostitution, likely not as a child has no understanding of what they are giving away and child prostitution only serves to harm the child's life, liberty, AND property; so you hit all three. Unless there is medical reason to believe that the child will die less a prostitute. If you can prove that, we may have reason for debate.

    But it's also arbitrary since we allow people to kill their children for religious beliefs. With that one still active, there's not really any moral grounds for what you're trying to propose here.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Not at all, right to life is fundamental and needs to be upheld. Acting counter to that is acting against the rights on a human.

    And you'd have to do more than make the claim. Making claims is essentially all that your arguments come down to. They would have to prove the claim.
    You are moving the goalposts now. That is not what you said. Here is what you said

    If it's to the detriment of the child, it should be disallowed.
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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's how it works even now. I think you are writing things but don't quite understand how disconnected what you are writing is. An individual of age can consent to his own will and a parent cannot force action. One who has legally emancipated himself from his parents is equally free of their direct control. You wish to contend this point?
    6yo's can't legally emancipate themselves.

    But again, I thank you for demonstrating how irrational libertarianism is by explaining how it doesn't allow parents to force their children to get an education
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