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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That is true. A child of age or legally emancipated cannot be forced to school by their parents.
    When they come of age we call them, legally speaking, adults. An emancipated minor becomes a legal adult.

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Fake child porn? You mean that which doesn't involve an actual child? If there's no rights to harm, there can be no harm to a real person. It takes threat to an actual humans right to evoke government force.
    You do not think there should be laws against fake child porn? What if it is very realistic?

    You cannot hold your absolutist, personally defined, position without condoning such things.

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If it's to the detriment of the child, it should be disallowed.
    Ahh, I see!!

    "The welfare of the child" is the important thing, so to hell with the libertarian principles. So all a parent has to do is argue that hiring out their child to do kiddie porn is for their own good and the libertarians will be fine with that
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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IOW, after denying that you used your own personal morality, you are using your own personal morality
    That's not morality, it's comments to proper use of government force. Government is inherently an amoral institution and cannot (or rather should not) be used to endorse personal morality. The rights of the individual are what matter, and that is what government is created to protect.


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    In this case, the govt has demonstrated the necessity. Denying facts won't make them go away; It only makes your arguments look even more pathetic.
    Then perhaps you can lay out this demonstration, yes?
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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That is true. A child of age or legally emancipated cannot be forced to school by their parents.
    Thank you for helping to demonstrate how utterly foolish libertarianism is
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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Ahh, I see!!

    "The welfare of the child" is the important thing, so to hell with the libertarian principles. So all a parent has to do is argue that hiring out their child to do kiddie porn is for their own good and the libertarians will be fine with that
    Not at all, right to life is fundamental and needs to be upheld. Acting counter to that is acting against the rights on a human.

    And you'd have to do more than make the claim. Making claims is essentially all that your arguments come down to. They would have to prove the claim.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    No. You didn't read what I wrote.
    You should talk to Ikari. That libertarian seems to think differently.

    At least he is not being a hypocrit
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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Thank you for helping to demonstrate how utterly foolish libertarianism is
    That's how it works even now. I think you are writing things but don't quite understand how disconnected what you are writing is. An individual of age can consent to his own will and a parent cannot force action. One who has legally emancipated himself from his parents is equally free of their direct control. You wish to contend this point?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Again, thank you for pointing out the laws we know exist. You do us all a great service by pointing out the obvious. But Eco I do believe was asking a fundamentally philosophical question not one that is based on current laws.

    Appeal to authority is logical fallacy.
    More of your ideology I see. Okay, we'll pretend that the real world doesn't exist.

    For the sake of argument, based upon your "Harm" theory, could I open a child brothel if the parents sold their children to me and the children wanted to do the work and didn't feel that they were being harmed?

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Fake kiddie porn laws are absolutely moral laws. Incest laws are mostly the same. It's the Yuck Factor.
    That's what I am trying to get it. How does Ikari's philosophy consider such examples?

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