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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I want to know how fake child porn fits into Ikari's position. Do those laws protect life or property? Or are they immoral laws.
    Fake kiddie porn laws are absolutely moral laws. Incest laws are mostly the same. It's the Yuck Factor.

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I want to know how fake child porn fits into Ikari's position. Do those laws protect life or property? Or are they immoral laws.
    Fake child porn? You mean that which doesn't involve an actual child? If there's no rights to harm, there can be no harm to a real person. It takes threat to an actual humans right to evoke government force.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Of course they can. But as guarantors or guardians of that childs rights, they may not enter into contracts that violate the rights they are obligated to defend.
    So a parent can't send their child to school since it infringes on the child's freedom to make their own decisions?
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So with your explanation, a parent could not send their child to a private school or even send them to a public school because those neither protect their lives nor their property.

    Also, what about parents consenting, on behalf of their children, to a risky medical procedure that might kill the child, has no guarantee of success, but the child will certainly die without it?
    If it's to the detriment of the child, it should be disallowed. But then again, we do allow parents to kill their kids if they claim religious belief, and there's all sorts of colors of grays some of which contradict each other. It's starting to look a lot like the bible.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So a parent can't send their child to school since it infringes on the child's freedom to make their own decisions?
    That is true. A child of age or legally emancipated cannot be forced to school by their parents.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Fake child porn? You mean that which doesn't involve an actual child? If there's no rights to harm, there can be no harm to a real person. It takes threat to an actual humans right to evoke government force.
    Not so. See: Laws, Drug.

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So a parent can't send their child to school since it infringes on the child's freedom to make their own decisions?
    No. You didn't read what I wrote.

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Indeed, a law being a law does not make it just.
    IOW, after denying that you used your own personal morality, you are using your own personal morality


    The government has not demonstrated the necessity to hold a gun to ones head and force them to deliver property unto whom they claim it should be delivered unto. Nothing I wrote was beyond level nor absurd, so trying to turn that around only makes your arguments look even more pathetic.
    In this case, the govt has demonstrated the necessity. Denying facts won't make them go away; It only makes your arguments look even more pathetic.
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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Not so. See: Laws, Drug.
    Again, thank you for pointing out the laws we know exist. You do us all a great service by pointing out the obvious. But Eco I do believe was asking a fundamentally philosophical question not one that is based on current laws.

    Appeal to authority is logical fallacy.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: San Antonio Adopts Disputed Gay Rights Measure

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That is true. A child of age or legally emancipated cannot be forced to school by their parents.
    I think at that point, what you have is no longer a child, but an adult.

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