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    Re: Putin says Russia has its plans for Syria

    Yeah, because the world has never seen this story before....

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    Re: Putin says Russia has its plans for Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    As others said...Russia needs the money we owe them. As much as that looks like they have us by the balls...it is the other way around. Russia is a backwards and corrupt government filled with organized crime and all kinds of other crap. That money is very important, and KGB boy wonder Putin knows that.

    You describe the US government perfectly. Want to debate that?? And, GHWBush was a CIA wonder boy, too. And the covert and nasty work they have performed around the world is largely no secret. But I know I know USA good, Russia bad, that meme is perennial.
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    Re: Putin says Russia has its plans for Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You describe the US government perfectly. Want to debate that?? And, GHWBush was a CIA wonder boy, too. And the covert and nasty work they have performed around the world is largely no secret. But I know I know USA good, Russia bad, that meme is perennial.
    Simple question. Would you rather live in a world where the US plays a leading role in acceptable norms, or one where Russia is allowed to further their own hegemony?
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    Putin says Russia has its plans for Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You describe the US government perfectly. Want to debate that?? And, GHWBush was a CIA wonder boy, too. And the covert and nasty work they have performed around the world is largely no secret. But I know I know USA good, Russia bad, that meme is perennial.
    Do you really want to debate the levels of corruption between Russia and the United States? Russia a place where citizens put dashboard cameras in their cars to protect them from corrupt police, and our police put then in their cars to protect them against civilians?

    Or would you rather debate the roles and history of HW Bush vs hard liner KGB Putin? Because I don't think you would be happy to find the hooliganism that is a reoccurring theme in Putin's history.

    See you claim that I am spouting a meme, but all my "meme" crap is backed in a hard dose of reality: Russia is not the nicest "1st world" nation to be a citizen in. You are spouting the classic left wing, non-American "meme" that "Americans are capitalist, imperialist, lying, dirty pigs who are dirty and corrupt, despite their track record of stopping their own corruption and standing up for things like humans rights."

    Actually. That brings me to another point. Would you like to compare standard of living and human rights in the 2 nations?

    Listen slick. You might have a case when you debate relatively homogenous societies like Western Europe, but you discussing a place like Russia as "comparable" in corruption to the United States is HILARIOUSLY naive.
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    Re: Putin says Russia has its plans for Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Simple question. Would you rather live in a world where the US plays a leading role in acceptable norms, or one where Russia is allowed to further their own hegemony?
    Are you kidding me?!?! The US provided chemical weapons to Iraq and encouraged their use. Is that not against "acceptable norms" and hegemony-Russia!!!! Wth are you talking about. Did you type that with a straight face or was your tongue stuck in your cheek? Because there's a lot of fingers pointing back on that one.

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    'We have our plans': Vladimir Putin warns US against Syria military action

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, because the world has never seen this story before....

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    Arch Duke Ferdinand.
    This is a world post 70-80 million European casualties from 2 World Wars, and where nations have the military capability to end life as we know it on this planet. Franz Ferdinands won't result in Global annihilation. People would start killing their own governments before that would happen. Hell they would let the retards in the Mis East kill each other off before that happens. Now is probably a good time to but oil stock though. A shortage is probably about to come about.
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    Re: Putin says Russia has its plans for Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Do you really want to debate the levels of corruption between Russia and the United States? Russia a place where citizens put dashboard cameras in their cars to protect them from corrupt police, and our police put then in their cars to protect them against civilians?

    Or would you rather debate the roles and history of HW Bush vs hard liner KGB Putin? Because I don't think you would be happy to find the hooliganism that is a reoccurring theme in Putin's history.

    See you claim that I am spouting a meme, but all my "meme" crap is backed in a hard dose of reality: Russia is not the nicest "1st world" nation to be a citizen in. You are spouting the classic left wing, non-American "meme" that "Americans are capitalist, imperialist, lying, dirty pigs who are dirty and corrupt, despite their track record of stopping their own corruption and standing up for things like humans rights."

    Actually. That brings me to another point. Would you like to compare standard of living and human rights in the 2 nations?

    Listen slick. You might have a case when you debate relatively homogenous societies like Western Europe, but you discussing a place like Russia as "comparable" in corruption to the United States is HILARIOUSLY naive.
    Got under your skin on that one. Like pulling the curtain back on the Wizard of Oz! Shinning a light on a burglar. Russia's full of corruption. Who would deny that? But so is the United States. The CIA has been going around the world undermining governments for decades, documented atrocities by our government. We're not quite as bad as Russia so were good. Dashboard cameras are finding their way in vehicles here too, and they will be capturing plenty of police abuse here. We stand up for human rights ONLY when it's in the interest of the MIC/corporate America. Otherwise we turn a deaf ear. Slick, hahahahahaha

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    Re: Putin says Russia has its plans for Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Any plan Borsht Boi has better involve USA defaulting on $200 billion owed to Russia and better involve Russia being thrown instantly into financial chaos. The moment he even looks at USA funny is the moment we keep the money and watch him experience a depression the likes of which Russia has never seen. No way he can make that up in arms sales in the Middle East.
    Just out of curiosity: How do you suppose a country can default specifically on the tiny portion of its sovereign debt held by a specific party?

    Switzerland, Brazil, Japan, our own pension plans, etc are loaded with US bonds. A default would create a financial earthquake of such magnitude that nobody will remember who Putin is, or what's up in Syria.

    P.S. Borsht is Ukrainian, not Russian.

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    'We have our plans': Vladimir Putin warns US against Syria military action

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Are you kidding me?!?! The US provided chemical weapons to Iraq and encouraged their use. Is that not against "acceptable norms" and hegemony-Russia!!!! Wth are you talking about. Did you type that with a straight face or was your tongue stuck in your cheek? Because there's a lot of fingers pointing back on that one.
    So...are you saying Russia's rap sheet with that type of action isn't longer and more extensive? Are you kidding me?
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    Re: Putin says Russia has its plans for Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Are you kidding me?!?! The US provided chemical weapons to Iraq and encouraged their use. Is that not against "acceptable norms" and hegemony-Russia!!!! Wth are you talking about. Did you type that with a straight face or was your tongue stuck in your cheek? Because there's a lot of fingers pointing back on that one.
    I certainly am not arguing American hypocrisy on the issue. But at the same time, I also don't want to cede any moral authority to Russia on the matter either. Just because some think we should be going around being the world's police at great cost to us, doesn't mean that we should...
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