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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    There is no way to reason with a culturally inferior people. You simply pound them into submission, mercilessly without pause or remorse.

    But not yet. Not over this. Unless there's a whole mess of things that we, as citizens, are not aware of yet.

    The recent measures now being taken at all NFL games - you pretty much can't take anything inside a stadium bigger than a wallet anymore - hints of some unusually serious threats out there. I don't know, but something seems brewing. Boston Marathon times 10.

    I think the reality of this world is hitting Obama squarely between the eyes. He knows things now he probably never wanted to know. He preferred that liberal bubble of group hugs and support groups and puppet role playing. Communication doesn't solve everything, as he once thought.

    I honestly can't figure out why he's so bent on this. Sure, distracting from his ongoing failures, trying to jumpstart employment, etc; we know the canned reasons for going to war. But this is odd, even for and especially for Obama.

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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's no jingo. You employ the same "logic" as Truthers.


    All evidence is fake! It's a massive conspiracy!

    "Claims" aren't evidence, how could you possibly not know that?

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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    "Claims" aren't evidence, how could you possibly not know that?
    Claims are evidence. Ever heard of sociological research?

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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    There is no way to reason with a culturally inferior people. You simply pound them into submission, mercilessly without pause or remorse.

    But not yet. Not over this. Unless there's a whole mess of things that we, as citizens, are not aware of yet.

    The recent measures now being taken at all NFL games - you pretty much can't take anything inside a stadium bigger than a wallet anymore - hints of some unusually serious threats out there. I don't know, but something seems brewing. Boston Marathon times 10.

    I think the reality of this world is hitting Obama squarely between the eyes. He knows things now he probably never wanted to know. He preferred that liberal bubble of group hugs and support groups and puppet role playing. Communication doesn't solve everything, as he once thought.

    I honestly can't figure out why he's so bent on this. Sure, distracting from his ongoing failures, trying to jumpstart employment, etc; we know the canned reasons for going to war. But this is odd, even for and especially for Obama.

    I love the candid admission of "canned reasons for going to war"

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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Claims are evidence. Ever heard of sociological research?
    You must mean only US claims. Iran, Syria, Russia and China all have their claims but of course their claims don't equal evidence. Your a real piece!

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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Our military game plan is to drop bombs on them from the sky, and arm and support one faction against the other. Just like the last dozen or so civil wars we've intervened in. What's to give away?



    What a weird sentiment. What exactly is it you think Iran is emboldened to do? Obtain nuclear technology? They're doing that already. Make moves against Israel? Fund terrorist organizations? Impose Islamic law on their people and oppress women, murder gays, and execute anyone who wants to stop being Muslim? They're already doing all of that. Maybe Iran's leaders don't spend all day thinking about what the United States may or may not do. Maybe if Iran "pissed on us" (whatever that actually means), then the American people would demand a war. We demanded one in Afghanistan, though we certainly didn't demand the one we ended up getting.

    All this paranoia over Iran gets us nowhere. Just like our paranoia over Iraq got us nowhere. Our war mongering only made things worse. We probably will suffer if we attack Syria. We'll keep creating men like Bin Laden. We'll keep putting dictators in power and then tearing them down. We'll help the religious fundamentalists kill the communists and then help the rebels kill the fundamentalists and then we'll help someone else kill the rebels. We keep arming violent people and then acting surprised when they do violent things. We're perpetuating violence and instability.
    Iran is the most strategically placed and capable country to disrupt the world's energy supply. There is no limit to the problems they could cause the US and the entire world.
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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The WSJ is saying it a little different. They say that the US "claims" to have intercepted communications between the Iranians and militants instructing them to do so!!! When the US gets god damn good and ready to bomb a country, Katy bar the door. There's no telling the distance we can go in fixing intelligence neatly around the policy.
    If these threats were actually made, the ayatollah is asking for a MOAB to be dropped right next to his office. That's why I'm skeptical. You don't tell the POTUS his daughter is going to be kidnapped and cut-up without the expectation of having a missile stuck up your ass.
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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    If these threats were actually made, the ayatollah is asking for a MOAB to be dropped right next to his office. That's why I'm skeptical. You don't tell the POTUS his daughter is going to be kidnapped and cut-up without the expectation of having a missile stuck up your ass.
    Well I certainly wish no harm to the presidents daughter or himself for that matter. But really, its not likely something Iran could actually do for one and for two who could blame them if they did utter such rhetoric? All that said, there's disinformation, threats and propaganda flying from all sides presently and it's difficult to cut through. But let us see an actual quote of the ayatollah or anyone else in the Iranian government saying such things. In the end, if they are as "crazy" as many on this board like to suggest, supposing their alleged nuclear program is advanced beyond our knowledge, suppose they shoved a nuke up our ass. The whole point is, why let things escalate to this level of rhetoric over "suggestive evidence"?

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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Iran is the most strategically placed and capable country to disrupt the world's energy supply. There is no limit to the problems they could cause the US and the entire world.
    Funny how it always keeps coming back to Iran... Tell me, WHY would Iran do this? Why would they sabotage their own source of wealth? Just because they're pricks? Nobody is really like that on a national scale. There's too much at stake. Because of their religion? Ever notice how few rich Jihaddists there are? They prefer to stay rich. To raise prices? Sorry bro, that's capitalism. They have a right to do that under your system.
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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Funny how it always keeps coming back to Iran... Tell me, WHY would Iran do this? Why would they sabotage their own source of wealth? Just because they're pricks? Nobody is really like that on a national scale. There's too much at stake. Because of their religion? Ever notice how few rich Jihaddists there are? They prefer to stay rich. To raise prices? Sorry bro, that's capitalism. They have a right to do that under your system.



    they have enough oil to supply themselves and their exports are allready strictly sanctioned, with impending increase in sanctions bringing their oil exports down to zero. So, they have nothing to lose by shutting down the SoH for any length of time. Why would they do this? Excercise of power and hurting their enemies. Shutting down the straights for no more than a few days would drastically impact the world economy and cause greivous harm to every single enemy of Iran.
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