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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I don't think it's about humanitarian efforts in as much as it is about enforcing an international treaty not to use chemical weapons.
    There are also International rules against genocide and that hasn't ever motivated USA military action.

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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I won't lie, I'm not comfortable with Obama leading the country during this tumultuous time (yeah... I voted for him last year; the alternative was worse.). If charisma alone could lead a country, we're all set. But it's not. I'm not saying he has done everything wrong; I'm just saying that his right versus wrong choice percentage is dismally low.

    Obama has been by turns inept, incompetent, indecisive. His constant vacillation on what the US will do, when it will do it, how it will do it, then oops, let's back that up for a while and chat with congress, has not only given Syria a blueprint of our military game plan, it's also allowed Syria plenty of time to shift, move and hide its military assets.

    As for Iran, they are watching a dithering president who changes his mind as often as mom changes a baby's diaper. If they don't feel emboldened at this point, I'd be stunned. They see a president that when pressed to the wall, blinks or simply moves the wall. They will take advantage of that, which will not bode well for the region or the world at large. I'd like to say I believed that if then Iranians tried to take a piss in our direction, Obama would turn them into eunuchs before they got it back in their pants...

    But I honestly don't believe that to be the case. There will be much bluster and gnashing of teeth, Obama will indignantly tell the world exactly what we are going to do and when we are going to do it, but in the end... I doubt he will do anything of substance, which will continue to embolden our enemies.

    I don't dislike the guy, but that's the trouble with "on the job training" in the most important job in the world. He wasn't ready for prime time, but a dazzling smile and a way with words gave people what they wanted, not what they needed.
    Couldn't agree more. He's a masterful politician and his political games run circles around others in our PC gentile society...play those games against hardened thugs on the international level playing for keeps...not so much. Well said.

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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    There are also International rules against genocide and that hasn't ever motivated USA military action.
    The US was motivated to intervene in the genocide in Kosovo and Bosnia through NATO. Clinton regretted not intervening in Rwanda genocide.

    I wonder why NATO isn't more involved in Syria?

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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If the Iranian regime so much as farts in the wrong direction, it can instantly forget about becoming a nuclear power.
    I read recently that Israel has 400 strategic nuclear weapons and neutron bombs. I'm thinking if Iran makes the mistake of bombing Tel Aviv that they might have to instantly forget about even having citizens and a government.

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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Clinton regretted not intervening in Rwanda genocide.
    It's easy for him to act regretful as he professes to be a statesman decades after letting it happen. Coulda, shoulda, woulda.

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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    It's easy for him to act regretful as he professes to be a statesman decades after letting it happen. Coulda, shoulda, woulda.
    It's probably not an easy decision to live with. He made a public apology while he was still president, not decades later.


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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The US was motivated to intervene in the genocide in Kosovo and Bosnia through NATO. Clinton regretted not intervening in Rwanda genocide.

    I wonder why NATO isn't more involved in Syria?
    This makes no sense.. Kosovo was a result of the US and NATO sticking their heads into the Bosnia. Bosnia was like Syria now. Once Jihad was called it became a **** storm in which Orthodox Christians (Serbs) were being slaughtered by the Muslims (Bosnian). Srebrenica was a central point to Bosnian forces in that area. For 3 years Bosnian and foreign fighters would go an attack villages around the area. Hundreds (maybe thousands) of Serb civilians were slaughtered even though Sreberenica was considered a safe zone (no weapons or military).. for 3 years Serbian forces and civilians complained about the attacks, for 3 years the UN, US and NATO ignored it.. so the end result was not surprising.. It was a genocide on both sides but US and NATO chose sides.

    Of course Clinton could regret Rwanda.. he was busy sticking his nose in Irish politics and Balkans politics while holding a position in which his Admin refused to use the word Genocide and lobbied the UN for removal of UNAMIR forces despite it being known what was planned. US Government hedged it's bets during Rwanda. US started backing the RPF (Tutsi) with training in the US in the late 1980s (obviously before Clinton) but still recognized the Hutu regime.
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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The US was motivated to intervene in the genocide in Kosovo and Bosnia through NATO. Clinton regretted not intervening in Rwanda genocide.

    I wonder why NATO isn't more involved in Syria?
    Probably because NATO acknowledges that a majority of Syrians support their president, A and B, because they don't want to interfere with Assad's war on terror.

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    Re: Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    I read recently that Israel has 400 strategic nuclear weapons and neutron bombs. I'm thinking if Iran makes the mistake of bombing Tel Aviv that they might have to instantly forget about even having citizens and a government.

    Yeah yeah, that's it kill every last citizen in Iran if the Iranian government attacks Israel, that would be Yahweh's approach. Men, women, children, goats, even those two trees over there!!

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    Iran: US will "suffer" if it leads strike on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yeah yeah, that's it kill every last citizen in Iran if the Iranian government attacks Israel, that would be Yahweh's approach. Men, women, children, goats, even those two trees over there!!
    At this point...are we supposed to care about who lives and dies in the Mid East? It took 2 massive world wars to quell Europeans of their bloodlust.
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