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    Re: The Big Push

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    I can not accept the premise that with as many people as we have in the House, Senate and the executive branch that they are collectively that stupid. When you ask people in the real world what the results of these policies will be they tend to be similar within a narrow range. The scandals suggest arrogance, not stupidity. They are doing what they are doing because they expect they can get away with it.
    Arrogance = Stupidity.

    Get away with what exactly? Creating chaos? How is that a "good thing" for them?

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    Re: The Big Push

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Arrogance = Stupidity.

    Get away with what exactly? Creating chaos? How is that a "good thing" for them?
    "Never let a crisis go to waste". Creating an atmosphere where labor hours are reduced to the point where more people "need" government assistance is in the government's interests as it applies to the slave/ owner relationship. The term "wage slave" comes immediately to mind.

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    Re: The Big Push

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Congratulations on putting your bottom line first, I guess? Me, I take care of my employees.
    Show us the proof

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    Re: The Big Push

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    "Never let a crisis go to waste". Creating an atmosphere where labor hours are reduced to the point where more people "need" government assistance is in the government's interests as it applies to the slave/ owner relationship. The term "wage slave" comes immediately to mind.
    Yep. SNAP and PPACA are not sold as simply ever more gov't dependence based on income redistribution, they are now sold as "creating oppotunities" for restoring America's greatness.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: The Big Push

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    "Never let a crisis go to waste". Creating an atmosphere where labor hours are reduced to the point where more people "need" government assistance is in the government's interests as it applies to the slave/ owner relationship. The term "wage slave" comes immediately to mind.
    So, you are saying that "the government" is trying to bring back slavery? Why? Who benefits? Usually there is a money trail....who is getting paid for this and why?

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    Re: The Big Push

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    After October 1st when your state has a healthcare exchange that you can shop, please come back in here and post about what you saw.
    What if you don't want to buy health insurance?

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    Re: The Big Push

    Quote Originally Posted by LoneLaugher View Post
    Why do conservatives think everyone besides them are idiots?
    No different than the below being levied on the entirety of modern business leaders:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin
    I think that the new bread of MBA toting corporate CEOs are carelessly and callously bleeding the institutions that are/were once the American symbols of economic ingenuity and success, in a concerted effort for ever higher profit margins, because greed is good. They don't give a damn about America
    It's not just conservatives...I'm not a conservative and I think a lot of the nonsense in threads like this are obviously absurd. Do you think anyone can make a claim like Kevin above and be taken seriously? Or half the people who claim XYZ about running a business and employee benefits, meanwhile never having had to make those actual choices themselves in a meaningful way? Don't confuse intolerance of fools with simple ad hom...

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    Re: The Big Push

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    So, you are saying that "the government" is trying to bring back slavery? Why? Who benefits? Usually there is a money trail....who is getting paid for this and why?
    Government "slave owners". Who gets paid and who benefits is who they choose. Plenty of evidence in that in the so called stimulus, Obamacare, government employee scandals, and so on. The why is the easiest of all, power. Corrupt at that.
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    Re: The Big Push

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Government "slave owners". Who gets paid and who benefits is who they choose. Plenty of evidence in that in the so called stimulus, Obamacare, government employee scandals, and so on. The why is the easiest of all, power. Corrupt at that.
    It's easy to see in some of your examples. The stimulus stimulated the 1%. Obamacare is the gift to Pharma Corporations that keeps on giving. But I'm having more difficulty following the slavery value.

    But, honestly, anything is possible.

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    Re: The Big Push

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Congratulations on putting your bottom line first, I guess? Me, I take care of my employees.
    Then obviously margins mean nothing to you, and you'll be out of business in no time, if you're not already.

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