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    Re: Assad's interview

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I remember the Last Time.

    Wasn't that the last time us and the French alone agreed upon a military action?
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    Re: Assad's interview

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    the U.N. should demand the chemical weapons be turned over for destruction.
    And if for some reason they don't comply we can have Maya Angelou write a mean poem about Assad and read it on Oprah.

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    Re: Assad's interview

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Wasn't that the last time us and the French alone agreed upon a military action?
    The French were in VN from 54 thru about 60. The north and south split somewhere in the mid to upper 50s. Eisenhower made a promise to the south for support if needed. Bad call.
    Then not long after that the Australians sent in some advisors and wind up sending several thousand troops.

    Kennedy sent in military "advisors" before he died. Johnson used the Gulf of Tonkin, which was a fabricated bunch of BS, to send in troops. He knew he ****ed up really bad...and didn't seek a second full term.

    Before we knew what the hell was going on..the draft started going like wildfire and upteen thousands were forced to go to VN.

    If I remember correctly...eventually about 500,000 Americans had been on VN soil before Ford finally was forced to end military presence...in about 75ish, give or take a year or so.

    So the answer to your question...no the US and the French didn't ally together going into VN.
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    Re: Assad's interview

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    The French were in VN from 54 thru about 60. The north and south split somewhere in the mid to upper 50s. Eisenhower made a promise to the south for support if needed. Bad call.
    Then not long after that the Australians sent in some advisors and wind up sending several thousand troops.

    Kennedy sent in military "advisors" before he died. Johnson used the Gulf of Tonkin, which was a fabricated bunch of BS, to send in troops. He knew he ****ed up really bad...and didn't seek a second full term.

    Before we knew what the hell was going on..the draft started going like wildfire and upteen thousands were forced to go to VN.

    If I remember correctly...eventually about 500,000 Americans had been on VN soil before Ford finally was forced to end military presence...in about 75ish, give or take a year or so.

    So the answer to your question...no the US and the French didn't ally together going into VN.
    Actually they were there from the ousting of the Japanese at the end of WWII until 1954. The country split in 1954 after the ousting of the French. The first advisors were sent in 1950, which is when it was still claimed by the French.

    Troop levels fell from 1969 to almost half the number being there in 1970.

    A Peace accord was reached under Nixon in 1973 which the NV's broke once American troop levels had fallen, Nixon was disgraced and Ford didn't have the political clout or will to re-engage.

    Saigon fell in 1975.
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    Re: Assad's interview

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Actually they were there from the ousting of the Japanese at the end of WWII until 1954. The country split in 1954 after the ousting of the French. The first advisors were sent in 1950, which is when it was still claimed by the French.

    Troop levels fell from 1969 to almost half the number being there in 1970.

    A Peace accord was reached under Nixon in 1973 which the NV's broke once American troop levels had fallen, Nixon was disgraced and Ford didn't have the political clout or will to re-engage.

    Saigon fell in 1975.
    Alrighty then. It was pretty close to my personal memories. It was quite a few years ago. My memory isn't as sharp as it use to be. But it serves me well enough to remember that for a hell of a lot of men and women in America and VN...it was not a good time in history. I got my draft notice on Oct 25, 1965.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Alrighty then. It was pretty close to my personal memories. It was quite a few years ago. My memory isn't as sharp as it use to be. But it serves me well enough to remember that for a hell of a lot of men and women in America and VN...it was not a good time in history. I got my draft notice on Oct 25, 1965.
    I was a little over 5 months old when you got drafted.

    War is never a good time, however if war is conducted intelligently and properly when it is necessary, then it at least reduces the negative. Vietnam under Johnson was neither conducted intelligently or properly. FDR was perhaps the last president that conducted warfare in an intelligent way. Some might argue for Reagan or H.W. Bush, but undoubtedly Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Clinton, G.W. Bush and Obama all screwed the pooch on it.
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    Re: Assad's interview

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Wasn't that the last time us and the French alone agreed upon a military action?
    Mornin DVS. Well not really.....it was when the French got their asses kicked and then called on us for help. Due to Cold War and Communism. Eisenhower' agreement to help the South. We jumped and gave them a helping hand. Which then we let the Democrats run the War and never tried to win it.

    Although.....we just did back them in Mali and we also backed their Play with the Ivory Coast.

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