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Thread: Obama: I didn't draw the red line on Syria, world did [W:162]

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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    He's attempting to put pressure on the Congress to do its job in legitimizing his action. By losing the UK, having a skeptical public, and without UN support, the President is more or less trying to put the ball in their court. Yes, it's a political calculation, and some things could have been handled better, but this was the right political calculation and it needed to be one. We expect the President of the United States to take a tough stand on issues of grave foreign policy interest, be it a nuclear Iran, genocide, or chemical weapon use on civilian populations. He gives one, which was what we expected, and the coalition around him evaporated. This simply makes sense.
    Yeah, it's not about what's the right thing to do, it's about political calculations. So when he going to bomb Iran?
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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    There are worse atrocities happening all around the world. Obama isn't launching the warships. Oh those are Christians being slaughtered. /yawn

    Just stop it already. We have no business in Syria. This is obviously a blatant. Obama is on video setting a red line. At this point we need to start asking ourselves how mentally and emotionally stable our President is. Clearly he is hallucinating and making things up.
    I agree...which is why I'm glad he's going to Congress rather than making the decision to pull the trigger and strike Syria on his own.

    As for atrocities happening all over the world...sure...but chemical attacks by a regime are supposedly something the vast majority of countries have signed on to saying it's unacceptable. It's an issue to be debated....is the international community willing to take action on the use of chemical weapons? Does the US see it as their duty to respond? Thank God it's going to Congress so that this is actually debated.
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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    I mean really, whats stopping him ?

    Any surgical strike will be reported as a success, no matter how much of a waste of a good T-Hawk missle it is, with photo's soon following showing Obama sitting in the Situation Room looking intently at the Flat screens.
    He's literally become the teflon Don. Nothing sticks to him. Truth, reason, common sense... they all slither off his scales like water.

    His minions, for some bizarre reason, don't care when he lies, when he intrudes on their liberties, their wallets, their lives. What manner of thought process is it that can justify the sort of person this man has proven himself to be occupying the most powerful office in the world?
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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I agree...which is why I'm glad he's going to Congress rather than making the decision to pull the trigger and strike Syria on his own.

    As for atrocities happening all over the world...sure...but chemical attacks by a regime are supposedly something the vast majority of countries have signed on to saying it's unacceptable. It's an issue to be debated....is the international community willing to take action on the use of chemical weapons? Does the US see it as their duty to respond? Thank God it's going to Congress so that this is actually debated.
    What a bunch of BS

    Warmongers like you want to make me puke. Where were you when Saddam gassed tens of thousands of Kurds? Your premise is flimsy at best and not even 10% of the required justification to get involved in another unjust war.

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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    It's not about defending him. The use of chemical weapons is an international "red-line"....and supposedly the international community has decided that certain actions require a consequence.
    No it isn't a "red line" nor is the so-called international community in agreement as to any response to the use of chemical weapons. IF the use of chemical weapons draws any response, it's purely a political one. And you most certainly are defending him the same way conservatives defended Bush back in the early days of the Iraq war.

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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    Oh pleaseeeee, now it is going to be our (people) fault.
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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    What a bunch of BS

    Warmongers like you want to make me puke. Where were you when Saddam gassed tens of thousands of Kurds? Your premise is flimsy at best and not even 10% of the required justification to get involved in another unjust war.
    I agree, the nauseating rationalizations and blatant hypocrisy are disgusting.
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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Quote Originally Posted by Coin View Post
    Oh pleaseeeee, now it is going to be our (people) fault.
    A majority of we the sheeple (re)elected this moron as our leader, he has been self promoted to world leader.
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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Figured as much to be fair! The UK pulls out and Obama is also obviously looking for an escape routesaid that the minute he decided to bring this your congress and already he has the excuses lined up to save his own skin. Wow.
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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Dumbest interpretation of a presidential statement since "you didn't build that."
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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