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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    And people wonder how a long time and perhaps our most trusted ally, the UK wouldn't even walk to walk with this turd of a president! How disgraced I am feeling right now. To be honest I was disgraced from the get go, but I thought it couldn't get any worse. No one trusts this idiot!

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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It will be, actually. The President's
    reputation is on the line (to disagree with him), the Congress's reputation is on the line, the American public's reputation is on the line, and the international community's reputation is on the line.
    He disconnected himself completly, from his Nation and his supporters by basically blaming everyone but him for his own remarks.

    We have a child running our Country.

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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    He disconnected himself completly, from his Nation and his supporters by basically blaming everyone but him for his own remarks.

    We have a child running our Country.
    He's attempting to put pressure on the Congress to do its job in legitimizing his action. By losing the UK, having a skeptical public, and without UN support, the President is more or less trying to put the ball in their court. Yes, it's a political calculation, and some things could have been handled better, but this was the right political calculation and it needed to be one. We expect the President of the United States to take a tough stand on issues of grave foreign policy interest, be it a nuclear Iran, genocide, or chemical weapon use on civilian populations. He gives one, which was what we expected, and the coalition around him evaporated. This simply makes sense.
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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    He's attempting to put pressure on the
    Congress to do its job in legitimizing his action. By losing the UK, having a skeptical public, and without UN support, the President is more or less trying to put the ball in their court. Yes, it's a political calculation, and some things could have been handled better, but this was the right political calculation and it needed to be one.
    LOL !!

    No he's NOT.

    Honestly, the only way he could put pressure on Congress is to blame everyone but himself for his own statement ? Why are you defending this man-child ?


    And whats stopping him anyway. He wen't into Lybia ( Now its a lawless hotbed for Islamo-terrorist..thanks Captain dumbs***..)

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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    I mean really, whats stopping him ?

    Any surgical strike will be reported as a success, no matter how much of a waste of a good T-Hawk missle it is, with photo's soon following showing Obama sitting in the Situation Room looking intently at the Flat screens.

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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    That isn't a lie so much as a rhetorical device. It is true that Obama wasn't exactly the first US President to proclaim that chemical weapons are unacceptable. It is true that leaders from around the world have proclaimed the same since WWI. That's all I got from his speech.

    For the record, I am opposed to Syrian intervention. I wish that Obama had never mentioned a line of any color. That said, I am glad he's requesting permission from Congress to intervene, which looks to me like an attempt to find an excuse to not intervene, or at least put it off. Given the choice between the US not following through on the red-line statement (thus looking weak) and the US launching a strike (thus accomplishing little and killing a bunch of people), I would choose the former.

    While Obama has made many mistakes, I am even more confident that he was the right choice in 2008. Obama is nowhere near the slavering warmonger that McCain is, who even now is urging US involvement in Syria. (I am less certain Obama was better than Romney, who just didn't talk as much about foreign policy. For my vote, that was more of a toss up)

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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yes I saw that.

    Jeesh.. this is a President with no character, no integrity and no principle.
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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We told the Left that in 2008.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    He's attempting to put pressure on the Congress to do its job in legitimizing his action. By losing the UK, having a skeptical public, and without UN support, the President is more or less trying to put the ball in their court. Yes, it's a political calculation, and some things could have been handled better, but this was the right political calculation and it needed to be one. We expect the President of the United States to take a tough stand on issues of grave foreign policy interest, be it a nuclear Iran, genocide, or chemical weapon use on civilian populations. He gives one, which was what we expected, and the coalition around him evaporated. This simply makes sense.


    Unbelievable. It's because of world views like this we are in the situation we are now, with this petty, petulant would-be dictator of child occupying the most powerful political office in the world.

    "Tough stand" my dairy aire. He's a sniveling weasel that rather than own up to his own mistakes is more than willing to not only blame everyone else - INCLUDING his own country and people - rather than man up to his incompetence and stupidity and admit he made a mistake.
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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !!

    No he's NOT.

    Honestly, the only way he could put pressure on Congress is to blame everyone but himself for his own statement ? Why are you defending this man-child ?


    And whats stopping him anyway. He wen't into Lybia ( Now its a lawless hotbed for Islamo-terrorist..thanks Captain dumbs***..)
    It's not about defending him. The use of chemical weapons is an international "red-line"....and supposedly the international community has decided that certain actions require a consequence.

    You also criticize him for Libya...and criticize him for taking more deliberation before going into Syria and getting Congressional support? The only thing confusing and nebulous is the conservative thought process.
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    Re: Now he's lying about the Red Line...

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    It's not about defending him. The use of chemical weapons is an international "red-line"....and supposedly the international community has decided that certain actions require a consequence.

    You also criticize him for Libya...and criticize him for taking more deliberation before going into Syria and getting Congressional support? The only thing confusing and nebulous is the conservative thought process.
    There are worse atrocities happening all around the world. Obama isn't launching the warships. Oh those are Christians being slaughtered. /yawn

    Just stop it already. We have no business in Syria. This is obviously a blatant. Obama is on video setting a red line. At this point we need to start asking ourselves how mentally and emotionally stable our President is. Clearly he is hallucinating and making things up.

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