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    Re: Syria Conflict Could Turn into another World War, Warns Vatican

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    What's ultimately responsible for the Syrian war? The Arab Spring? Colonialism? The Sunni-Shiite rift?
    The MB and the Salafists used the Arab Spring to demand the release of Political Prisoners. Then staged protests in Deraa and Damascus.

    As usual it goes back to Assad's Father's Days and while he ruled. Anything concerning the MB always deals in revenge.

    2011 March - Protests in Damascus and the southern city of Deraa demand the release of political prisoners. Security forces shoot a number of people dead in Deraa, triggering days of violent unrest that steadily spread nationwide over the following months.

    The government announces some conciliatory measures in an attempt to damp down unrest. . President Assad releases dozens of political prisoners and dismisses the government, and in April lifts the 48-year-old state of emergency. However, he accuses protesters of being Israeli agents.

    2011 May - Army tanks enter Deraa, Banyas, Homs and suburbs of Damascus in an effort to crush anti-regime protests. US and European Union tighten sanctions. President Assad announces amnesty for political prisoners.

    2011 June - The government says that 120 members of the security forces have been killed by "armed gangs" in the northwestern town of Jisr al-Shughour. Troops besiege the town and more than 10,000 people flee to Turkey. President Assad pledges to start a "national dialogue" on reform.

    2011 June - The IAEA nuclear watchdog decides to report Syria to the UN Security Council over its alleged covert nuclear programme reactor programme. The structure housing

    Opposition organises
    2011 July - President Assad sacks the governor of the northern province of Hama after mass demonstration there, eventually sending in troops to restore order at the cost of scores of lives. Opposition activists meet in Istanbul to form a unified opposition.

    2011 October - Newly formed Syrian National Council says it has forged a common front of internal and exiled opposition activists. Russia and China veto UN resolution condemning Syria.

    2011 November - Arab League votes to suspend Syria, accusing it of failing to implement an Arab peace plan, and imposes sanctions. Army defectors target a military base near Damascus in the Free Syrian Army's most high-profile attack since protests began. Government supporters attack foreign embassies.

    2011 December - Syria agrees to an Arab League initiative allowing Arab observers into the country. Thousand of protesters gather in Homs to greet them, but the League suspends its mission in January because of worsening violence.

    Twin suicide bombs outside security buildings in Damascus kill 44, the first in a series of large blasts in the the capital that continue into the following summer. Opposition accuses government of staging these and subsequent attacks.....snip~

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14703995
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    Re: Syria Conflict Could Turn into another World War, Warns Vatican

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    Syria Conflict Could Turn into another World War, Warns Vatican - IBTimes UK


    So, the Vatican is concerned about an attack on Syria causing another world war. Are they overreacting? Do they know something most others don't know?

    Another article in the German daily "Die Welt", a commentary, compares the situation to Serbia 1914:
    Militärintervention : Kann der Konflikt in Syrien im Weltkrieg enden? - Nachrichten Debatte - Kommentare - DIE WELT

    What do you think?
    They're looking at current event, as measured against history, like some of the rest of us are.

    More mishandling by Obama and WW3 is exactly what we could end up with.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Syria Conflict Could Turn into another World War, Warns Vatican

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're looking at current event, as measured against history, like some of the rest of us are.

    More mishandling by Obama and WW3 is exactly what we could end up with.
    Maybe I'm just worrying too much, but I am afraid you are right. Although I don't think this is an "Obama vs. Republicans" thing. Bush started this policy with full force, and Obama just continues it. Blueprint is the "Project for a New American Century".
    "Not learning from mistakes is worse than committing mistakes. When you don't allow yourself to make mistakes, it is hard to be tolerant of others and it does not allow even God to be merciful."

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    Re: Syria Conflict Could Turn into another World War, Warns Vatican

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    Maybe I'm just worrying too much, but I am afraid you are right. Although I don't think this is an "Obama vs. Republicans" thing. Bush started this policy with full force, and Obama just continues it. Blueprint is the "Project for a New American Century".

    You've got that right PNAC.

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    Re: Syria Conflict Could Turn into another World War, Warns Vatican

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You've got that right PNAC.
    Here some info, for anybody who's interested:

    Project for the New American Century - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    "Not learning from mistakes is worse than committing mistakes. When you don't allow yourself to make mistakes, it is hard to be tolerant of others and it does not allow even God to be merciful."

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    Re: Syria Conflict Could Turn into another World War, Warns Vatican

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    Maybe I'm just worrying too much, but I am afraid you are right. Although I don't think this is an "Obama vs. Republicans" thing. Bush started this policy with full force, and Obama just continues it. Blueprint is the "Project for a New American Century".
    Bush didn't start anything. This was started by the mad-men of the world that insist on forcing America's had at every turn. Obama was nowhere close to being qualified to handle these kinds of situations. If he really cared about the country, he would resign. At this point, even Biden is more qualified to handle a hot situation such as this. The advantage Biden has over the bad guys, is that they think he's actually stupid enough to do something crazy.
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    Re: Syria Conflict Could Turn into another World War, Warns Vatican

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    Glad you put that up. Hopefully people will look at it.

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    Re: Syria Conflict Could Turn into another World War, Warns Vatican

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Bush didn't start anything. This was started by the mad-men of the world that insist on forcing America's had at every turn. Obama was nowhere close to being qualified to handle these kinds of situations. If he really cared about the country, he would resign. At this point, even Biden is more qualified to handle a hot situation such as this. The advantage Biden has over the bad guys, is that they think he's actually stupid enough to do something crazy.
    Your the dude that needs to look at the link that German put up.

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    Re: Syria Conflict Could Turn into another World War, Warns Vatican

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Glad you put that up. Hopefully people will look at it.
    Well they already have up the map the US has identified with Assads Chemical factories and Assets. Where they are strategically looking to now help the Rebels.


    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...post1062270768

    Which btw way Assad has moved things into Civilian neighborhoods.

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    Re: Syria Conflict Could Turn into another World War, Warns Vatican

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Bush didn't start anything. This was started by the mad-men of the world that insist on forcing America's had at every turn. Obama was nowhere close to being qualified to handle these kinds of situations. If he really cared about the country, he would resign. At this point, even Biden is more qualified to handle a hot situation such as this. The advantage Biden has over the bad guys, is that they think he's actually stupid enough to do something crazy.
    Bush rejected Putin's open arms after 9/11 and the US repeatedly kicked in his face (Iraq 2003, Ukraine 2004, Georgia 2008, Libya 2011), since Bush followed Billy Kristol's strategic musings about rolling back Russia and destroying it on the long run. Obama has obviously just continued that policy.

    That doesn't mean Putin is a nice guy, or a better guy. The Russians have their weird geotrategic paranoia too and aren't over the loss of the USSR yet.

    But this confrontation over Syria is just the next logical step in a long line of events Bush started after 9/11, mentored by his PNAC advisors.
    "Not learning from mistakes is worse than committing mistakes. When you don't allow yourself to make mistakes, it is hard to be tolerant of others and it does not allow even God to be merciful."

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