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John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

He's a yes-man for the Obama Administration. Man comes from the Senate, and doesn't appear to believe in the right congressional officials to object to anything. And what happened to the leftwing belief in coalitions? Who is actually onboard to support this, and actually participate in taking action? For the last 12 years we've been hearing about how Bush did it all wrong, but all I see is hypocrisy.
"Hypocrisy" has to be the greatest understatement yet - at least in every area but one. What the Obama administration is basically asking for is permission to spend hundreds of billions of dollars we simply do not have. THAT at least is totally consistent.
 
There's millions of people in America who think there was this guy named Jesus that was born of a virgin, died and came back to life and is floating on a cloud waiting to come back for them, and we don't call them lunatics. It's people's beliefs, SO WHAT. During his ten years presidency, how many nations did Ahmadinejad attack? Only racists and bigots want to bomb countries that haven't bothered us because they are of a different race and religion.

AhMADinejad used terrorist nations as proxies to do his dirty work. He wanted to speed up the coming of the Twelfth Imam. He is a lunatic. Iran's hegemony in the ME is quite clear.
 
AhMADinejad used terrorist nations as proxies to do his dirty work. He wanted to speed up the coming of the Twelfth Imam. He is a lunatic. Iran's hegemony in the ME is quite clear.

Bull****, prove that. Now the US on the other hand does use terrorists in proxy wars, in fact the US is doing just that presently in Syria, did it in Libya before that and Egypt before that, oh and all the examples in Latin America. Iranian hegemony, what a crock of **** you've shovelled up here. Your describing the US, not Iran. Take those glasses off Miz.
 
The US constitution has no place for attacking a country that hasn't first attacked us, or threatened us with imminent attack. You warmongers need to ACTUALLY READ the constitution and WPA.

Most of us have read the USC. You should give it a shot too. And pro tip: Anyone that supports their President is not magically a warmonger. Though anyone that incorrectly makes accusations might magically be thought challenged.
 
If the evidence was clear, I think the Congress wouldn't be as split as it is.You're not a member either, but somehow you know that we need to attack.

I am not a member, but I have the belief that if you democratically vote in a POTUS you need to just let the guy do his job for 4 years and stop fantasizing that you can do it better.
 
I am not a member, but I have the belief that if you democratically vote in a POTUS you need to just let the guy do his job for 4 years and stop fantasizing that you can do it better.

Nonsense. Since when did "doing his job" include blatantly lying about what he said concerning the "red line"?
 
Au contraire. There is nothing sacrosanct about the US Constitution - it is a set of guiding principles like any other, with some excellent aims, and some decidedly iffy ones. But as long as the US is signatory to the UN Charter and the International Courts of Justice, (amongst other international treaty organisations) it is subservient to, and bound by, international law. If it flouts international law, as it, and several of its lackeys, did in the instance of Iraq, it commits a crime against humanity. None of us, irrespective of how rich we are, or how many carrier fleets we field, is above the law.

The US Constitution does not give power to any other bodies to create laws beyond the USA Legislative Branch. If UN passes a law saying you have to kill your mother, are you going to just go out to Walmart and buy an aluminum baseball bat and smash her skull in? Of course not - because USA is not beholden to laws created by some half crazed lunatics from the arab coalition or some third world country that doesn't even contribute money and soldiers to the UN. The UN is an irrelevant body and it has no power over me here in USA. My life is only restricted and controlled by US Code and State Code. F**K the UN.
 
US seeks war on purpose. The Syrian War What You're Not Being Told

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dkamZg68jpk


UN Investigation have shown that the rockets used to deliver
the chemicals were homemade rockets, not military or
industrial produced. The chemical was also not industrial
produced, it didn't have stabilizers.

Why would the Syrian government give the US a reason to
strike by attacking their own country with chemical weapons?

Actions:

Please share this article and discuss it with the people that
answer the phones for President Obama, your Senators and
Representatives.

Call the White House comment line now at 202-456-1111
or 202-456-1414 to be put on hold until operator is available
 
Nonsense. Since when did "doing his job" include blatantly lying about what he said concerning the "red line"?

Prove he lied. Write to your senators, demand he be tried for high crimes and misdemeanor, and when the Legislative Branch says he lied or did anything illegal I will stand right by you demanding his impeachment. Until then, you are just coming off as a DNC hater that is mad that Kolob Romney and Lyin' Ryan are on the outside looking in. Just out of curiosity - were you outraged when Ron Reagan sold arms to Iran and used the cash to fund terrorist contras that hacked little children into pieces with machetes?
 
Now Kerry is saying anyone who objects to the strikes on Syria are responsible for any gassing done by any government.

Future gassing. From inaction. Just as if you knew Hitler was gassing Jews and you looked the other way - it would be someone saying you have blood on your hands because you ignored the problem. He is just being a drama queen IMHO, but I am sure he will have some level of success spooling up Congress. Boehner and the big boys are already on board. I am pretty sure this bombing is going to happen.
 
Prove he lied. Write to your senators, demand he be tried for high crimes and misdemeanor, and when the Legislative Branch says he lied or did anything illegal I will stand right by you demanding his impeachment. Until then, you are just coming off as a DNC hater that is mad that Kolob Romney and Lyin' Ryan are on the outside looking in. Just out of curiosity - were you outraged when Ron Reagan sold arms to Iran and used the cash to fund terrorist contras that hacked little children into pieces with machetes?

Obama then (Obama sets "red line" for Syria on several occasions):

What is Obama’s red line on chemical weapons and what happens if Syria crosses it?

Obama now (I did not set a "red line", the world did that...):

Obama: 'I Didn't Set a Red Line' on Syria | The Weekly Standard
 
LOL.
I love this part. "we have to go to war but we can't tell you why. It's classified."

If you ever served in the Military and had your clearance, you would understand why we have clearances and why we classify information. If Kerry says he is going to get Senators the information and if those Senators have clearances and were briefed on the appropriate protection of that classified data; I have to assume Kerry will actually give that classified information to those folks. If he didn't, those folks would tear him a new butt hole.
 
Obama then (Obama sets "red line" for Syria on several occasions):

What is Obama’s red line on chemical weapons and what happens if Syria crosses it?

Obama now (I did not set a "red line", the world did that...):

Obama: 'I Didn't Set a Red Line' on Syria | The Weekly Standard

Wow. What I see is you severely twisting some articles to fit some fantasy you have that Obama is a liar. That's DNC hating 101. In the first article he says he won't stand for Syria gassing their citizens. Seems reasonable of a statement. In the second article he is saying the world set the red line and not him - and that's right - he can't set the position of 200+ other countries. He is saying that in unison the world is saying it is against Syria gassing citizens. You might be able to fool some of the folks with the DNC hating 101 garbage; but if you want me to be against my POTUS / CinC you are going to have to do a heck of a lot better than some silly articles from some journalists trying to sell their rags.
 
Most of us have read the USC. You should give it a shot too. And pro tip: Anyone that supports their President is not magically a warmonger. Though anyone that incorrectly makes accusations might magically be thought challenged.

Any war will do, get the popcorn.
 
Wow. What I see is you severely twisting some articles to fit some fantasy you have that Obama is a liar. That's DNC hating 101. In the first article he says he won't stand for Syria gassing their citizens. Seems reasonable of a statement. In the second article he is saying the world set the red line and not him - and that's right - he can't set the position of 200+ other countries. He is saying that in unison the world is saying it is against Syria gassing citizens. You might be able to fool some of the folks with the DNC hating 101 garbage; but if you want me to be against my POTUS / CinC you are going to have to do a heck of a lot better than some silly articles from some journalists trying to sell their rags.

As proof that the Syrian gov't has, indeed, ordered the gassing of its citizens you offer us what link(s)? Can we be 1) sure who performed that gassing and 2) that they were ordered to do so? I can offer video proof that two U.S. commercial airliners were flown into buildings, yet that does not prove that those airliners were under the control of their owners or that they ordered that to occur.
 
Obama then (Obama sets "red line" for Syria on several occasions):

What is Obama’s red line on chemical weapons and what happens if Syria crosses it?

Obama now (I did not set a "red line", the world did that...):
Those who voted for the Community Organizer in order to get free food stamps and Obamaphones, and thinking the Mid East was somewhere near the Mid West, have cost their country a great deal.

The 'Dumbing Down of America' and the election of Barrack Obama was no coincidence.
 
Wow. What I see is you severely twisting some articles to fit some fantasy you have that Obama is a liar. That's DNC hating 101. In the first article he says he won't stand for Syria gassing their citizens. Seems reasonable of a statement. In the second article he is saying the world set the red line and not him - and that's right - he can't set the position of 200+ other countries. He is saying that in unison the world is saying it is against Syria gassing citizens. You might be able to fool some of the folks with the DNC hating 101 garbage; but if you want me to be against my POTUS / CinC you are going to have to do a heck of a lot better than some silly articles from some journalists trying to sell their rags.

"I didn't say that! The world did!!"

Great stuff!
 
As proof that the Syrian gov't has, indeed, ordered the gassing of its citizens you offer us what link(s)? Can we be 1) sure who performed that gassing and 2) that they were ordered to do so? I can offer video proof that two U.S. commercial airliners were flown into buildings, yet that does not prove that those airliners were under the control of their owners or that they ordered that to occur.

Are you one of those 9-11 crazies that think 9-11 planes were controlled remotely by the CIA or something? Wow. You hear about those crazies, but I never met one before now.

The White House issued an overview of the classified information and stated they had geo-spacial (satellite) and on-the-ground proof of who did the gassing. If you are one of those government conspiracy loons then I can't help you.
 
"I didn't say that! The world did!!"

Great stuff!

Glad you find the government views entertaining. Good luck with your life.
 
Are you one of those 9-11 crazies that think 9-11 planes were controlled remotely by the CIA or something? Wow. You hear about those crazies, but I never met one before now.

The White House issued an overview of the classified information and stated they had geo-spacial (satellite) and on-the-ground proof of who did the gassing. If you are one of those government conspiracy loons then I can't help you.

That is half way there then but the other half, that they acted under official orders, remains unknown. I am not implying that the 9/11 acts were not terrorism, just that the owners of the aircraft were not held criminally responsible. Just as Hasan was a U.S. military member on active duty yet was not shooting under orders at Fort Hood.
 
Glad you find the government views entertaining. Good luck with your life.

Government views? Not so much.

Barrack Obama? Yes, he is the parody, the caricature, of the worst of the worst when we think of corrupt and incompetent politicians.

Thanks for your best wishes, and good luck with your life also.
 
I am not a member, but I have the belief that if you democratically vote in a POTUS you need to just let the guy do his job for 4 years and stop fantasizing that you can do it better.

It's not his job to declare war, nor is it his job to decide when to go unless we're actually attacked. Have we been attacked yet?
 
Future gassing. From inaction. Just as if you knew Hitler was gassing Jews and you looked the other way - it would be someone saying you have blood on your hands because you ignored the problem. He is just being a drama queen IMHO, but I am sure he will have some level of success spooling up Congress. Boehner and the big boys are already on board. I am pretty sure this bombing is going to happen.

The stupid **** hasn't even proven who we should attack yet. All we know is gas was used.
 
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