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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    or maybe he is a ex-dentist who is trying to hold onto his position as dictator, and does not care how many of his countries people have to die as a consequence.
    Assad is an Alawite, which is a Twelver.

    Al-Assad family - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The Assads are originally from Qardaha, just east of Latakia in north-west Syria. They are members of the minority Alawite sect and belong to the Kalbiyya tribe.

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    The Alawites, also known as Alawis (ʿAlawīyyah Arabic: علوية‎) are a prominent mystical religious group centred in Syria who follow a branch of the Twelver school of Shia Islam.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Assad is an Alawite, which is a Twelver.

    Al-Assad family - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The Assads are originally from Qardaha, just east of Latakia in north-west Syria. They are members of the minority Alawite sect and belong to the Kalbiyya tribe.

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    The Alawites, also known as Alawis (ʿAlawīyyah Arabic: علوية‎) are a prominent mystical religious group centred in Syria who follow a branch of the Twelver school of Shia Islam.
    They are also the last thru DNA that have any ties to the original Syrians.....course the Sunni wouldn't mind seeing that line beome extinct.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Sure they could. Iran hates Israel as a matter of course though, so that is where I expect a Twelver to try and spool the end-times up. But sure - if there were Twelvers in power in Pakistan they could probably get WW III going by bombing India back to kingdom come.

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    People of the Twelver faith form a majority in Iran, Iraq, Azerbaijan and Bahrain, and form a plurality in Lebanon. Alevis in Turkey and Albania, and Alawis in Syria, also regard themselves as Twelvers, but hold significantly different beliefs from mainstream Twelver Shias. People of the Twelver faith form a large minority in India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE and Saudi Arabia. Smaller minorities of Twelver also exist in Oman, Yemen and Egypt and in many other countries, including Europe and the Americas.

    Israel hates Iran as a matter of course. And the west allows Israel to get away with murder, literally. And what makes Ahmadinejad a lunatic?

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    For those advocating a military response...what IS that response? To what end would you see the response bring? And what IF...what if it turns out that like the chemical attack in March and like the rebels caught by Turkey in June with Sarin Gas, what if it turns out is was the rebels that launched the attack? Do you still call for attacks...only this time against the Presidents allies?

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    For those advocating a military response...what IS that response? To what end would you see the response bring? And what IF...what if it turns out that like the chemical attack in March and like the rebels caught by Turkey in June with Sarin Gas, what if it turns out is was the rebels that launched the attack? Do you still call for attacks...only this time against the Presidents allies?
    It WAS the Islamist extremist rebels that the US has been supporting that carried out the attacks. Secondly, any attack on a country that didn't attack us first violates our own constitution, and it violates international law. It's like being in the twilight zone, just hearing it contemplated.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    It would be very interesting to see Republicans stand up and say that they no longer want to help eliminate WMDs.
    It would make sense to me for them to stand up and say that lobbing some missiles into the desert isn't going to eliminate any WMD's. When was the last time a U.S. military action fixed anything?

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    For those advocating a military response...what IS that response? To what end would you see the response bring? And what IF...what if it turns out that like the chemical attack in March and like the rebels caught by Turkey in June with Sarin Gas, what if it turns out is was the rebels that launched the attack? Do you still call for attacks...only this time against the Presidents allies?
    Heya VM. This what McCain and Menendez is saying.

    Both McCain and Menendez said that although any action would be aimed at degrading Assad's capabilities to deliver chemical weapons, it could also undermine the Syrian government itself and shift momentum in favor of the rebels.....snip~

    Obama launches push for support on Syria, calls for quick action in Congress

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya VM. This what McCain and Menendez is saying.

    Both McCain and Menendez said that although any action would be aimed at degrading Assad's capabilities to deliver chemical weapons, it could also undermine the Syrian government itself and shift momentum in favor of the rebels.....snip~

    Obama launches push for support on Syria, calls for quick action in Congress
    Hi MMC. This whole thing just reeks of amateur hour. Even the people backing the president dont know what they are backing. I wonder how many peple really believe that if the UK hadnt pulled the plug on this that Obama would still have gone to congress. I would bet money on him really HOPING against hope that the GOP votes against his request.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Hi MMC. This whole thing just reeks of amateur hour. Even the people backing the president dont know what they are backing. I wonder how many peple really believe that if the UK hadnt pulled the plug on this that Obama would still have gone to congress. I would bet money on him really HOPING against hope that the GOP votes against his request.
    Yeah VM.....well I think people should be all over the Media to have Obama explain the backing of Traitors and Terrorists. Wheres the Debate?

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah VM.....well I think people should be all over the Media to have Obama explain the backing of Traitors and Terrorists. Wheres the Debate?
    I dont think many of his supporters (yes...even in the media) agree with or believe in what he is doing. Thats not going to be enough to make many of them openly challenge him. The majority are still "true believers". They will change their hard and fast positions based on whatever he says next.

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