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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    I got a question!

    What would be the point of bombing Syria now? With all of this discussion they would have certainly moved all of their ammo, intelligence, soldiers, etc.

    Exactly what would we be achieving?

    And don't get me wrong. I really don't have a problem with bombing them but now that we've "showed our hand" what is to be gained?


    It will be so the French can say they punished Assad.....the French have filed 5 Actionable Action Resolutions in the UN. Started with Ivory Coast, then Libya, then Syria, Then Mali and Now the Central Republic/ Congo. Notice how they always need someone else to give them a helping a hand. Either moving their troops or giving them supplies and or our tech. Always involved into other business and always filing non stop resolutions in the UN.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'



    Remember that pic the lefties always throw out of Rumsfeld and Hussein?
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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    I have no idea what targets they will choose, but if you were Assad wouldn't you be freaking out for the next week over whether Congress will line up behind Obama and give him the go-ahead to bomb whatever he wants?
    Yeah - I don't get that part, AB. How come the international media aren't reporting that Assad is sh*tting little blue-gray putty balls? It's like he doesn't even care.

    I don't know if this is relevant, but have you ever heard of a group called "The Twelvers"? The ex president of Iran was one of those guys. This group has this belief that if they can somehow start World War III, that it will force some sort of messiah to appear (called the Mahdi) that has secretly been hiding in the background and walking the earth for 1,200 years. So when this horrible war goes down, this Mahdi will also somehow find the earlier messiahs like Jesus and Moses; and together they will all create a new planet earth where Islam is the only religion and the whole planet gets ruled by this Mahdi and Sharia Law for all of eternity.

    The reason these Twelvers are crazy is because they don't mind starting WW III and they think that anyone that dies along the way was merely "a martyr for the greater good". That Iranian lunatic Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would have been happy to let every single Iranian die as long as it triggers the appearance of this Mahdi. Maybe Assad is a fruitloop like Mahmoud?

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Yeah - I don't get that part, AB. How come the international media aren't reporting that Assad is sh*tting little blue-gray putty balls? It's like he doesn't even care.

    I don't know if this is relevant, but have you ever heard of a group called "The Twelvers"? The ex president of Iran was one of those guys. This group has this belief that if they can somehow start World War III, that it will force some sort of messiah to appear (called the Mahdi) that has secretly been hiding in the background and walking the earth for 1,200 years. So when this horrible war goes down, this Mahdi will also somehow find the earlier messiahs like Jesus and Moses; and together they will all create a new planet earth where Islam is the only religion and the whole planet gets ruled by this Mahdi and Sharia Law for all of eternity.

    The reason these Twelvers are crazy is because they don't mind starting WW III and they think that anyone that dies along the way was merely "a martyr for the greater good". That Iranian lunatic Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would have been happy to let every single Iranian die as long as it triggers the appearance of this Mahdi. Maybe Assad is a fruitloop like Mahmoud?
    or maybe he is a ex-dentist who is trying to hold onto his position as dictator, and does not care how many of his countries people have to die as a consequence.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    The reason these Twelvers are crazy is because they don't mind starting WW III and they think that anyone that dies along the way was merely "a martyr for the greater good". That Iranian lunatic Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would have been happy to let every single Iranian die as long as it triggers the appearance of this Mahdi. Maybe Assad is a fruitloop like Mahmoud?
    If that's the case, couldn't they just start the war whenever they wanted? They could start by bombing India and Pakistan and letting them destroy each other.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    John Kerry called this the "Munich Moment." That's a shame. For one, comparisons to Hitler are almost always reckless hyperbole. Two, the concept of appeasement is invoked way too much. Going back to point one, it only is relevant if you're dealing with someone akin to Hitler. Most people aren't.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    John Kerry called this the "Munich Moment." That's a shame. For one, comparisons to Hitler are almost always reckless hyperbole. Two, the concept of appeasement is invoked way too much. Going back to point one, it only is relevant if you're dealing with someone akin to Hitler. Most people aren't.
    John Kerry to Democrats:

    Link to that quote

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Damn. Kerry is out neo-conning even McCain,Lieberman and Graham. Very nice.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Drake McHugh View Post
    Damn. Kerry is out neo-conning even McCain,Lieberman and Graham. Very nice.
    Hypocrites...but we always knew that. All you have to do is wait, and they'll come through every time.
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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    If that's the case, couldn't they just start the war whenever they wanted? They could start by bombing India and Pakistan and letting them destroy each other.
    Sure they could. Iran hates Israel as a matter of course though, so that is where I expect a Twelver to try and spool the end-times up. But sure - if there were Twelvers in power in Pakistan they could probably get WW III going by bombing India back to kingdom come.

    Twelver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    People of the Twelver faith form a majority in Iran, Iraq, Azerbaijan and Bahrain, and form a plurality in Lebanon. Alevis in Turkey and Albania, and Alawis in Syria, also regard themselves as Twelvers, but hold significantly different beliefs from mainstream Twelver Shias. People of the Twelver faith form a large minority in India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE and Saudi Arabia. Smaller minorities of Twelver also exist in Oman, Yemen and Egypt and in many other countries, including Europe and the Americas.

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