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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    More to the point, the paranoid style of American politics virtually requires most politicians to vote for military action in almost any situation or they risk being called "unpatriotic" by the rightwing noise machine that has poisoned our political rhetoric since the Cold War. It takes one brave politician to vote against firing missiles at another country. It will be interesting to see which ones step up to the plate -- but I agree, they will be in the minority by far.
    Last time I checked, it was Obama who was creating most of the "noise" pushing for military action. A leftwinger.
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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    More to the point, the paranoid style of American politics virtually requires most politicians to vote for military action in almost any situation or they risk being called "unpatriotic" by the rightwing noise machine that has poisoned our political rhetoric since the Cold War. It takes one brave politician to vote against firing missiles at another country. It will be interesting to see which ones step up to the plate -- but I agree, they will be in the minority by far.
    Last I remember it was Obama that drew the RED LINE, a socialist. And like a socialist he now says he didn't say it but instead the world said it. Now we have a puppet for a president.
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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    I am fine with the concept of security clearances and the classification of information. Meaning: I am cool with Obama knowing things you and I don't know.



    Well the good news is you aren't one of those 9-11 loons and we can keep talking. In Georgia quite a few people I knew thought the actual planes with the US citizens were seen after the event hidden at the Cleveland Airport and that all the people on the plane were spirited away into some some secret witness relocation type of program. Same loons also talked about how the CIA blew up the buildings with special explosives. There is no reasoning with folks like that. Why would the owners of the aircraft be held liable? If a drunk driver kills someone in a car rental, is it OK to sue Ford (owners of Hertz)? I could see going after Saudi Arabia since they were all Saudi citizens, maybe going after the government agency in charge of the metal detectors, or perhaps the manufacturer of the planes for not making the cockpit safe enough. But truth be known - I am pretty sure there was a class action already against the plane manufacturer that got thrown out of court.
    Because the two airlines involved were negligent in allowing such a simple thing as passengers being easily able to take over and pilot the aircraft. The success rate of those attempts was 100%. 4-5 morons armed with boxcutters could not likely succeed in robbing a bank or even the typical gas station. We do hold the registered owners of vehicles responsible for their abuse; examples are red light and radar triggered camera tickets. Rental cars must be covered by liability insurance and are not furnished with drivers.

    It is certainly strange that we make most businesses, even nuclear power plants and gun/ammo/drug stores, supply their own security personnel/equipment, yet have decided to protect the airlines from that responsibility - essentially rewarding their failure to do so. The makers of aircraft, like the makers of cars and busses would gladly offer locking operator compartments (and increase their profit) if that is what the customers wanted (police cars and cabs?) - they are liable only if what they did make/install did not work properly.
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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    God I hope they attach the authorization to a bill to repeal obamacare and outlaw abortion just to watch democrats stroke out.
    I just want the bad guys, whoever they may be, to get what's coming to them!

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    I just want the bad guys, whoever they may be, to get what's coming to them!
    Mornin Dooble. Well that wont be happening.....As Idris and all his backers are hiding in Turkey. Where they stay hiding until Assad is killed or driven out. Then they will go back into Syria. Having never lifted a finger to do any thing to put their asses on the line.

    Course now those MB backers and Salafists have no problem going out and fighting. Also going after Christians when they can't get their way.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    I just want the bad guys, whoever they may be, to get what's coming to them!
    That is just it...Who are the bad guys?

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    You are incorrect. There is something called the Supremacy Clause in the US Constitution. It guarantees that the US Constitution is the supreme law of the land and that no treaty (or State Code) can ever override US Code. It doesn't matter to me what a POTUS signs in the way of treaties with other countries. I am in no way beholden to the UN or the laws of any other country. Ever.
    I understand that the domestic laws of the United States are not dictated by the UN, just as English Common Law is not formulated by that organisation. I am not suggesting otherwise. But in matters of International Law we are all governed by the treaties, protocols, and conventions, to which our nations are signatory.

    Being the supreme law of the land is not inconsistent with being subject to International Law, which governs the actions and relationships between nations, not within them. Going to war, or attacking another nation, in breach of the articles of the UN, has no relevance to domestic legal supremacy. It is not a question of being beholden to any organisation, it is simply a matter of national integrity to honour agreements into which one has formally entered. Only rogue states do otherwise.
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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    i say we don't back a side, i say we force the assad regime and rebels to agree to come to negotiating table and stop the fighting.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    I say it's better they fight it out in Syria killing each other off so they won't be blowing up any buildings in my backyard or financing terrorism in Israel. When the bad guys are at war with each other you break out the popcorn.
    Islam is an antiquated religion and needs to either modernize with the times or be completely eradicated.
    There are two types of Muslims, terrorists, and their enablers. They need to fix that if they want to be part of civilized society.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    At first I wanted this vote to be a no because going into Syria would be stupid. Now I want it to be a no vote so that Kerry can have egg on his stupid face.
    At first I wanted a no vote because I don't see why it's any of America's business what one group of arabs does to another group of arabs. But the more I think about how evil both sides are; the more I think we should arm both groups to the teeth and let them have at each other.

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