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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Are you one of those 9-11 crazies that think 9-11 planes were controlled remotely by the CIA or something? Wow. You hear about those crazies, but I never met one before now.

    The White House issued an overview of the classified information and stated they had geo-spacial (satellite) and on-the-ground proof of who did the gassing. If you are one of those government conspiracy loons then I can't help you.
    How much sarin gas is accessible to the FSA? How much notice did the FSA have of the intended targets for the Assad rockets? How much additional gas was released by Al Qaida after the Assad rockets hit their targets? Why is Saudi Arabia supplying Sarin gas to the FSA?

    Why does Saudi Arabia want the US to bomb Assad's facilities in Damascus and Syria?

    Do you support McCains call for Syrian regime change? How about supporting the Syrian Presidential elections in 2014?

    Future elections
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    •Presidential - May 2014


    IFES Election Guide - Country Profile: Syria


    http://www.law.yale.edu/RCW/rcw/juri...nstitution.pdf


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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    How much sarin gas is accessible to the FSA? How much notice did the FSA have of the intended targets for the Assad rockets? How much additional gas was released by Al Qaida after the Assad rockets hit their targets? Why is Saudi Arabia supplying Sarin gas to the FSA?

    So you support McCains call for Syrian regime change? How about supporting elections in 2014?

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    •Presidential - May 2014


    IFES Election Guide - Country Profile: Syria

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    Support McCain? Support him for what...making the next level on the game he was playing on his cell phone during the Kerry debate with the Senate on the language for the resolution on going to Syria? When asked why he was playing the game for 3 hours...he said out of boredom.

    Apparently not enough violence going on during the debate for McCain. Kerry was being too passive.

    Go, go, go McCain....!....NOT...

    Let me guess who'll win the election in Syria in 2014...hmmmmm..mmmmm....uhhhhh...ASSAD?

    Good questions about Sarin gas...
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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Surely you're trolling with that. There's no way you can honestly believe what you wrote. Is there?
    Trolling is not my thing, and I have no need to do so in this instance. The fact is - the US Constitution is a guiding document like any other, and only has significance in domestic matters. Where the US is signatory, and where the matter involves international affairs, international legal instruments supercede US domestic laws. Of course the US is free to flout international law, and there is currently no individual nation who can oppose that militarily (something of which some Americans are fond of reminding us), but that does not alter the nature of the crime.
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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Thank you for your strength & courage during these dangerous times, Mr. Secretary.

    John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action - ABC News
    So another "Mission Accomplished" BS thing. Nice.

    It never ceases to surprise me how liberal and conservative rail so hard about how they're different and in the end they do the exact same thing. Thanks Busama! Glad we can have another 10+ years of war to cost thousands of American lives for no reason.
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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    he's right... Congress with vote "yes" to military strikes.
    Of course they will. It doesn't matter how many Americans they'll kill, the Government will do anything for its power and the wealth of its buddies.

    9/11 killed 3,000 Americans, how many Americans has the War on Terror killed?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Will the Senate and the House both vote, whatever their vote is, before 9/11 next Wednesday?

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Trolling is not my thing, and I have no need to do so in this instance. The fact is - the US Constitution is a guiding document like any other, and only has significance in domestic matters. Where the US is signatory, and where the matter involves international affairs, international legal instruments supercede US domestic laws. Of course the US is free to flout international law, and there is currently no individual nation who can oppose that militarily (something of which some Americans are fond of reminding us), but that does not alter the nature of the crime.

    Very accurate assessment Leo.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So another "Mission Accomplished" BS thing. Nice.

    It never ceases to surprise me how liberal and conservative rail so hard about how they're different and in the end they do the exact same thing. Thanks Busama! Glad we can have another 10+ years of war to cost thousands of American lives for no reason.
    That first "Mission Accomplished" accompanied with the incredibly stupid "Bring It On" will live in Infamy for tens of thousands of American families, without even mentioning the Iraqi civilians.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Of course they will. It doesn't matter how many Americans they'll kill, the Government will do anything for its power and the wealth of its buddies.

    9/11 killed 3,000 Americans, how many Americans has the War on Terror killed?
    More to the point, the paranoid style of American politics virtually requires most politicians to vote for military action in almost any situation or they risk being called "unpatriotic" by the rightwing noise machine that has poisoned our political rhetoric since the Cold War. It takes one brave politician to vote against firing missiles at another country. It will be interesting to see which ones step up to the plate -- but I agree, they will be in the minority by far.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    The US Constitution does not give power to any other bodies to create laws beyond the USA Legislative Branch.
    That is so, and neither does any other sovereign state. But as signatory to the UN, we are all bound by its articles - and have committed a breach of international law if we flout any one of those.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    If UN passes a law saying you have to kill your mother, are you going to just go out to Walmart and buy an aluminum baseball bat and smash her skull in?
    As you say - of course not. And no nation would remain signatory to the UN under those conditions. But I am attempting to address a serious question here - not conjecture about fantastical hyperbole.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Of course not - because USA is not beholden to laws created by some half crazed lunatics from the arab coalition or some third world country that doesn't even contribute money and soldiers to the UN.
    Arrogance - thy name is conservative America!

    Look, I realise that certain Americans look upon the UN as an agency that can be bought in order to facilitate US interests across the globe, but I am sure those who think like that have realised by now that is not the function of the organisation. The UN does not 'create' laws, it enacts the wishes of the international community (not just those nationas with the most money and power) and codifies them into international legal instruments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    The UN is an irrelevant body and it has no power over me here in USA. My life is only restricted and controlled by US Code and State Code. F**K the UN.
    Except where your nation is signatory to international laws and conventions (as with all of us).
    I hate the idea of causes, and if I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country. E.M. Forster

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