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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    If the evidence was clear, I think the Congress wouldn't be as split as it is.You're not a member either, but somehow you know that we need to attack.
    I am not a member, but I have the belief that if you democratically vote in a POTUS you need to just let the guy do his job for 4 years and stop fantasizing that you can do it better.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    I am not a member, but I have the belief that if you democratically vote in a POTUS you need to just let the guy do his job for 4 years and stop fantasizing that you can do it better.
    Nonsense. Since when did "doing his job" include blatantly lying about what he said concerning the "red line"?
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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Au contraire. There is nothing sacrosanct about the US Constitution - it is a set of guiding principles like any other, with some excellent aims, and some decidedly iffy ones. But as long as the US is signatory to the UN Charter and the International Courts of Justice, (amongst other international treaty organisations) it is subservient to, and bound by, international law. If it flouts international law, as it, and several of its lackeys, did in the instance of Iraq, it commits a crime against humanity. None of us, irrespective of how rich we are, or how many carrier fleets we field, is above the law.
    The US Constitution does not give power to any other bodies to create laws beyond the USA Legislative Branch. If UN passes a law saying you have to kill your mother, are you going to just go out to Walmart and buy an aluminum baseball bat and smash her skull in? Of course not - because USA is not beholden to laws created by some half crazed lunatics from the arab coalition or some third world country that doesn't even contribute money and soldiers to the UN. The UN is an irrelevant body and it has no power over me here in USA. My life is only restricted and controlled by US Code and State Code. F**K the UN.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    US seeks war on purpose. The Syrian War What You're Not Being Told

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=dkamZg68jpk


    UN Investigation have shown that the rockets used to deliver
    the chemicals were homemade rockets, not military or
    industrial produced. The chemical was also not industrial
    produced, it didn't have stabilizers.

    Why would the Syrian government give the US a reason to
    strike by attacking their own country with chemical weapons?

    Actions:

    Please share this article and discuss it with the people that
    answer the phones for President Obama, your Senators and
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    Call the White House comment line now at 202-456-1111
    or 202-456-1414 to be put on hold until operator is available

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Nonsense. Since when did "doing his job" include blatantly lying about what he said concerning the "red line"?
    Prove he lied. Write to your senators, demand he be tried for high crimes and misdemeanor, and when the Legislative Branch says he lied or did anything illegal I will stand right by you demanding his impeachment. Until then, you are just coming off as a DNC hater that is mad that Kolob Romney and Lyin' Ryan are on the outside looking in. Just out of curiosity - were you outraged when Ron Reagan sold arms to Iran and used the cash to fund terrorist contras that hacked little children into pieces with machetes?

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Now Kerry is saying anyone who objects to the strikes on Syria are responsible for any gassing done by any government.
    Future gassing. From inaction. Just as if you knew Hitler was gassing Jews and you looked the other way - it would be someone saying you have blood on your hands because you ignored the problem. He is just being a drama queen IMHO, but I am sure he will have some level of success spooling up Congress. Boehner and the big boys are already on board. I am pretty sure this bombing is going to happen.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Prove he lied. Write to your senators, demand he be tried for high crimes and misdemeanor, and when the Legislative Branch says he lied or did anything illegal I will stand right by you demanding his impeachment. Until then, you are just coming off as a DNC hater that is mad that Kolob Romney and Lyin' Ryan are on the outside looking in. Just out of curiosity - were you outraged when Ron Reagan sold arms to Iran and used the cash to fund terrorist contras that hacked little children into pieces with machetes?
    Obama then (Obama sets "red line" for Syria on several occasions):

    What is Obama’s red line on chemical weapons and what happens if Syria crosses it?

    Obama now (I did not set a "red line", the world did that...):

    Obama: 'I Didn't Set a Red Line' on Syria | The Weekly Standard
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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    LOL.
    I love this part. "we have to go to war but we can't tell you why. It's classified."
    If you ever served in the Military and had your clearance, you would understand why we have clearances and why we classify information. If Kerry says he is going to get Senators the information and if those Senators have clearances and were briefed on the appropriate protection of that classified data; I have to assume Kerry will actually give that classified information to those folks. If he didn't, those folks would tear him a new butt hole.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Obama then (Obama sets "red line" for Syria on several occasions):

    What is Obama’s red line on chemical weapons and what happens if Syria crosses it?

    Obama now (I did not set a "red line", the world did that...):

    Obama: 'I Didn't Set a Red Line' on Syria | The Weekly Standard
    Wow. What I see is you severely twisting some articles to fit some fantasy you have that Obama is a liar. That's DNC hating 101. In the first article he says he won't stand for Syria gassing their citizens. Seems reasonable of a statement. In the second article he is saying the world set the red line and not him - and that's right - he can't set the position of 200+ other countries. He is saying that in unison the world is saying it is against Syria gassing citizens. You might be able to fool some of the folks with the DNC hating 101 garbage; but if you want me to be against my POTUS / CinC you are going to have to do a heck of a lot better than some silly articles from some journalists trying to sell their rags.

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    Re: John Kerry: ‘We Are Not Going to Lose’ Vote Authorizing Syria Military Action'

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Most of us have read the USC. You should give it a shot too. And pro tip: Anyone that supports their President is not magically a warmonger. Though anyone that incorrectly makes accusations might magically be thought challenged.
    Any war will do, get the popcorn.

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