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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I will support my congressman if he votes for airstrikes only if an amendment changing the word "Syria" to "Detroit" passes. I really see this as a "Of course they won't pass it, Mr. President, then you do it anyway and blame the republicans for their obstructionism. That is what "bold" leadership is."
    Bomb Detroit?

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    this will take a little time ... first Congressmen/women have to find out where Syria is ... then they have to figure out whose side we're on, and that's important because when Iraq and Iran had a war during the Reagan Administration, Iraq used chemical weapons and the U.S. knew it and said nothing because it was on Saddam Hussein's side (then the relationship soured later and ... well, you know the rest of the story) ... then, the final thing the GOP has to figure out is what the best way is to embarrass the president and make sure this turns out to be a disaster ... a lot of work to be done, and Pres. Obama didn't make it any easier by not handling the whole mess better ...

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    this will take a little time ... first Congressmen/women have to find out where Syria is ... then they have to figure out whose side we're on, and that's important because when Iraq and Iran had a war during the Reagan Administration, Iraq used chemical weapons and the U.S. knew it and said nothing because it was on Saddam Hussein's side (then the relationship soured later and ... well, you know the rest of the story) ... then, the final thing the GOP has to figure out is what the best way is to embarrass the president and make sure this turns out to be a disaster ... a lot of work to be done, and Pres. Obama didn't make it any easier by not handling the whole mess better ...
    You're assuming malice, and this really is a shame.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    You're assuming malice, and this really is a shame.
    the malice that the GOP has demonstrated toward this president from the beginning, and placing party over country, is the real shame NB ...

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    The Constitution requires Congressional authorization for war because it is less likely to pull the trigger than an imperial president. This is the first time Obama has followed the constitutional mandate on a major policy decision. I don't think his reason was constitutional however. He wants to bomb Syria but that is so unpopular with the American people that he is hoping that Congress will take some of the heat from the electorate. Asking Congress to share the blame is a calculated political decision. This administration makes Bush look like a foreign policy genius.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Well, I am gonna have to contact Menendez and try to dissuade him from supporting any action in Syria.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    The Constitution requires Congressional authorization for war because it is less likely to pull the trigger than an imperial president. This is the first time Obama has followed the constitutional mandate on a major policy decision. I don't think his reason was constitutional however. He wants to bomb Syria but that is so unpopular with the American people that he is hoping that Congress will take some of the heat from the electorate. Asking Congress to share the blame is a calculated political decision. This administration makes Bush look like a foreign policy genius.
    Exactly. He painted himself into a corner by running his mouth while he was campaigning..Like saying he would close gitmo, for instance...more BS..
    Suddenly, now that he looks like a fool to the world, he wants to deflect to congress so he can say he tried but the mean old republicans...blah..blah...blah...

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    The Constitution requires Congressional authorization for war because it is less likely to pull the trigger than an imperial president. This is the first time Obama has followed the constitutional mandate on a major policy decision. I don't think his reason was constitutional however. He wants to bomb Syria but that is so unpopular with the American people that he is hoping that Congress will take some of the heat from the electorate. Asking Congress to share the blame is a calculated political decision. This administration makes Bush look like a foreign policy genius.

    Or maybe W Bush used up all the goodwill from other countries who helped with Iraq.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    Or maybe W Bush used up all the goodwill from other countries who helped with Iraq.

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    I don't think so. Goodwill is established by being consistent in the way you treat both friend and foe. The Obama administration has only demonstrated inconsistency. They were going to put a missile shield in Poland, until they weren't because they wanted to appease the Russians. The Poles were our friends until they weren't. Then there was the reset with Russia, until that fell apart in the middle east and now Putin and Obama are making fun of each other publicly. Israel was an aggressor nation until political pressure from Jews caused Obama to soften his tone. I don't even know how to describe our relationship with Egypt, Mubarak, the Brotherhood and the military. All I would advise our allies is be careful.

    From a foreign policy standpoint this administration looks to me to be a fish flopping around on the dock looking for water. It's truly amateur hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    the malice that the GOP has demonstrated toward this president from the beginning, and placing party over country, is the real shame NB ...
    I can't say I agree with you that the GOP has placed party over principle or the good of the nation. I can say, however, that I am not a Republican and that I have been consistently disappointed by this President's performance.

    He zigs when he should zag; he swings when he should stay. His hubris persuaded him not to listen to protocol officers, so he blundered twice with the Brits. His "hidden agendas" such as millions of dollars of support to green companies and also "Fast and Furious" have made me sick. That Eric Holder still has a job sums up, at least in part, the problem with this President.

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