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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    We have not started a war..
    He wants to, doesn't he?

    Truman - Korea.

    Johnson - Viet Nam.

    Obomba - Entire Middle East.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    We don't have to take over anyplace.. We may not be the worlds police, but we are a world leader--"The" world leader and thus we have responsibilities.. By using chemical weapons on civilians including women and over 400 children, Syria broke the rules..

    There is your problem. They say world leader as something people voluntarily follow. We lead the way into the future implies that people chose to follow us. What you are talking about is fascism. We will become the world's leader through force and dictates. Those are not the same thing. In one case you are a leader because your way is good and people eventually realize that. The other you lead because you are strong and the good is not inherent. You are trying to claim we are an inherent leader when really we are fallible and using force. You are no better than conservatives who claim rightousness through religion.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Nothing like getting the cart before the horse. Send out your entire administration to beat the drums of immediate military action, identify all the sites you're going to bomb, etc., and then limp into congress in two weeks to see if you can scrounge up enough support for a "plan" that has no or little rationale and even less of an end game or desired outcome. Does anyone have confidence that Obama and his gang have a clue what they're doing?

    There are only two possible outcomes here - the congress will see this as a foolish jump into nonsense with no good ending and vote against it or they will see a weak President, further weakening America's reputation abroad, and foolishly vote to approve it in the hope of bolstering America's reputation. Neither is good.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Nothing like getting the cart before the horse. Send out your entire administration to beat the drums of immediate military action, identify all the sites you're going to bomb, etc., and then limp into congress in two weeks to see if you can scrounge up enough support for a "plan" that has no or little rationale and even less of an end game or desired outcome. Does anyone have confidence that Obama and his gang have a clue what they're doing?

    There are only two possible outcomes here - the congress will see this as a foolish jump into nonsense with no good ending and vote against it or they will see a weak President, further weakening America's reputation abroad, and foolishly vote to approve it in the hope of bolstering America's reputation. Neither is good.
    I think that is exactly right. Obamas turn to congress was a run for cover. He ran right up to the edge of attack and pulled back. That makes him look week and cowardly. He doesn't want to bomb Syria or transform the Middle East, he wants to transform America. Getting us bogged down in a war is Syria will just distract him from his ultimate goal. He screwed up drawing the red line, Syria called his bluff and Obama folded. Game over. The negative impact of this and the degree to which his fecklessness will embolden our enemies remains to be seen, but there is no upside to bad guys around the globe having no fear of the US.

    As for congress, they will not authorize any action, and Obama wont push them in any way. They will come back with a no vote and Obama will thump his chest and say how willing he was to take bold action but Congress stopped him. It is probably best that we don't do anything is Syria, but the way we arrive at that determination is important. It is one thing to say we wont act because it is not in our interest to act, but another altogether to send your Secretary of State out there to declare that attacking IS in our national interest then have the President turn tail and run. Not good.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas105 View Post
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    Good, more than likely Congress will vote down his authorization for force in Syria.
    I am very pleased that the president has listened to the suggestion we and many others have made to bring this authorization to Congress. Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee

    What? Their suggestion? WTF happened to the Law and the Constitution? Suggestion my behind.

    This is one of the things that is wrong with our government...the Constitution & the Law are merely suggestions.
    Know the truth and the truth will make you mad, because the truth has no agenda.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    We have not started a war..
    Just because you aren't calling it that, doesn't make it such.

    Obomba has been aiding the destabilization of the Middle-East, in spades. This will come to haunt us as a nation in the future.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    We don't have to take over anyplace.. We may not be the worlds police, but we are a world leader--"The" world leader and thus we have responsibilities.. By using chemical weapons on civilians including women and over 400 children, Syria broke the rules..
    Mornin' Juanita. Well since we will use that argument. Then should we not go and do a drive by on the Syrian Rebels for the use of Chems and more than once? Drop some cruise Missiles on their forces too.

    Just to show them that we will punish them too.

    Didn't Obama say he wants to be fair. Do the Right thing?

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    I am very pleased that the president has listened to the suggestion we and many others have made to bring this authorization to Congress. Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee

    What? Their suggestion? WTF happened to the Law and the Constitution? Suggestion my behind.

    This is one of the things that is wrong with our government...the Constitution & the Law are merely suggestions.
    Mornin' INF. Yeah and I wouldn't trust Corker on this one. He is in line with McCain and just came back recently from over there. But like you I am glad to see Obama.....DO THE RIGHT THING for Once!!!!!

    Albeit.....a bit late. Still better late than sorry.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    We don't have to take over anyplace.. We may not be the worlds police, but we are a world leader--"The" world leader and thus we have responsibilities.. By using chemical weapons on civilians including women and over 400 children, Syria broke the rules..
    Is it the human rights abuses that are occurring or having chemical weapons/WMD that bothers you more?

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    I'm glad for our military members that this will go to Congress. No need to immediately jump into something that some of our closest allies won't even support.

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