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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    It takes a big man to step in and threaten to kick the crap out of somebody. It takes a bigger man to back out of the threat when he realizes that the lone act would not accomplish anything.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Well, we already have a war on terror and if we do go in perhaps we should broadcast that as well...We seem to know where they are located...
    Yes.....we do know where the Rebels are located. Plus we wont even be able to hit their command center. As that is in Turkey where most of the FSA Leadership hides out while all the fighting is going on.

    So it all should be Joy Joy for those Like France and us who says something has to be done to show the rest of the world that using Chems is not tolerated.

    Course those that are our enemies and those who are about Power acquired thru whatever means. Will surely listen to us and think we best never eva do that.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i don't know, but no one on here besides myself care enough to be asking such details.

    i don't think the rebels could have been the ones behind the attacks, mainly because it is my belief that chemical weapons require specialist training in order to handle them. i don't think the rebel forces have any one with the knowledge to handle chemical weapons, and the only way we would know if they did use chemical weapons is if the chemical weapons blew up in their faces or backfired on them.
    The CIA has training camps in Jordan where these extremists are receiving the necessary training and then being sent into Syria to work at toppling the Syrian government.

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    The use of chemical weapons is a win win for the terrorist rebels and loose loose for the Syrian government. Russia and Chinas support of the Syrian government is tied to them not using chemical weapons or any targeting of civilians. Assad desperately needs to maintain the support of his people China and Russia. Assad using chemical weapons defies ALL logic, he didn't do it, the US can't prove he did, nor could UN inspectors with boots on the ground. This was the work of the extremists with help.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The use of chemical weapons is a win win for the terrorist rebels and loose loose for the Syrian government. Russia and Chinas support of the Syrian government is tied to them not using chemical weapons or any targeting of civilians. Assad desperately needs to maintain the support of his people China and Russia. Assad using chemical weapons defies ALL logic, he didn't do it, the US can't prove he did, nor could UN inspectors with boots on the ground. This was the work of the extremists with help.
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    "Syrian rebels in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta have admitted to Associated Press correspondent Dale Gavlak that they were responsible for last week’s chemical weapons incident which western powers have blamed on Bashar Al-Assad’s forces, revealing that the casualties were the result of an accident caused by rebels mishandling chemical weapons provided to them by Saudi Arabia.

    "We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,” one militant named ‘J’ told Gavlak.

    His claims are echoed by another female fighter named ‘K’, who told Gavlak, “They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them. We didn’t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.”



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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Libya = Gadaffi = Pan Am Flight 103 = Operation El Dorado Canyon = dirtbag needed to die. I'm glad Obama went into Libya to take care of business. It was a long time coming. Shame we lost four American patriots while they were trying to get our weapons back after they were done using them. That part really bothers me.
    So you advocate murder.

    Gaddafi never claimed responsibility for the actions taken.

    I remember that operation along with actions taken in the Gulf of Sidra. We went into a high state of alert when I was in the military.

    Thing is, if we were to take Gaddafi out for those reasons, we should have done it then. Not 25 years later. That is a very, very poor excuse.

    Since that time had passed, Gaddafi had mellowed. He actually became a great leader. Dislike him all you want, but Libya prospered under his rule. Libya has a literacy rate of 89.2% (2010 stats.) Gaddafi had the 8th Wonder built, and it was bombed by us... Libya had the highest HDI rate of all African nations, and higher than nations like Mexico. It has since slipped about 10 places among other nations.

    Libya was moving in a positive direction. We should have never aided the overthrow by the rebels.

    now...

    In the name of peace, we want to help more rebels? I can't believe this BS is happening.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    The Constitution doesnt say the President has the right to wage war, period. He must have Congressional approval.

    The War Powers act allows a President to act without Congress on an imminent threat, Syria has not posed an imminent threat to the US.
    Common law isn't duplicated by the constitution. Common law was recognized as remaining the same, unless a change was made to it. It was common law of the time that the head of state could wage war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I was so angry when I heard the news...President Obama better have a dam good reason for doing this--like pushing for more extensive action than a limited and narrow strike... Right now the FSA feels betrayed, The Syrian Regime feels emboldened, and the USA feels embarrassed, or should...
    A man who almost became president said the U.S. should bomb Syria, and called Obama's reluctance to intervene shameful.
    What's your opinion of McCain?

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    The original plan was to go in immediately to take out the launchers and air fields so it would be more difficult to launch chemical weapons and to punish them for launching these gas attacks on their own people, and to discourage others from doing so...It is not necessary to foam at the mouth and attack me...

    It is FAR from confirmed that the Syrian government committed the very illogical, self defeating act of targeting their own civilian population, that support them btw, with chemical weapons. And, it would frustrate China and Russia's credibility in supporting the Syrian government. There simply is no logic to Assad having done this!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Agreed. This attack is all wrong. I can't remember a president ever openly attacking another nation to "send a message". Talk about considering the US the world's police or baby sitter! If he wanted to send that message he should have acted and then explained why he hit Syria with 25 missiles etc. This is being handled all backwards.

    Reagan, did that in Tripoli.

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