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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    The whole ME mess bothers me...
    It bothers all of us.

    So what pressing reason is there for us to take military action, that will do any good?

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    Or maybe W Bush used up all the goodwill from other countries who helped with Iraq.

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    Obama did that all by himself with the Brits.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The FSA is infested with al Qaida, reporters have documented dozens of stories throughout this Syrian war in which they have kidnapped journalists and UN officials, destroyed Christian churches, tied civilians hands and shot them execution style, placed truck bombs in front of federal buildings killing civilians and host of other crimes against civilians. The CIA should never have been training them in their Jordanian camps, arming them and sending them in there to begin with. Even that is something that should have been debated by congress. The Assad government is recognized by many nations as the legitimate Syrian government. China and Russia absolutely will not allow the US to obtain authorization for use of force at the UN. So unless your advocating our president attack another country that has not first attacked us, in violation of international law, he has no other alternative. And, you can't even get Rumsfeld on board with this one!!!


    Unfortunately, Alqaida is all over Syria now.. We waited too long to really help... Now all we can do, or already should have done, is to lob a few missiles and take out their launchers and air fields and its probably too late to do that as well....

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    We waited too long to really help...
    Why do we have to "help" at all?

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Why do we have to "help" at all?
    Agree. Maybe if there were a clear perpetrator and a clear victim it would be easier to rationalize "help". Perhaps there was a time when this existed at the very beginning and we missed the boat to do something positive as others suggest. Now, I believe our continued support of the rebel groups is for 2 reasons. 1: Oppose whatever the Russians and Iranians support, and 2) we feel like we must be involved in everything to some extent or another. Our media shows pictures of rebels violated by Assads forces, and Russian tv shows Assad's forces violated by rebels.

    I see that you're libertarian so I don't share your view of stay out of every world affair, but I am with you to stay out of this one (ones which can only hurt us and decrease our credibility).

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    Congress to Vote on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    The Middle East is already destabilized and it's only going to get worse..
    Thanks to previous intervention in affairs that simply are not out business.

    Jordan and Lebanon, Eygpt... I seldom agree with any Republican, but I think John McCain has the right idea and may be why the Pres. decided to go through Congress...
    He will go through congress only because it's the only venue left that can give some form of legitimacy to attack...

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I guess we will just have to wait and see...
    If I was a betting man, obama will attack; assad will shoot back, then the stories will be about how Assad attacked us and the stories of the heroism of the survivors, and then it will be the 70% + approval required to start a war effectively (on that front) an suddenly the people will be to get boots on the ground.

    Hell, we already forgot about armin Alquaida with anti-air heat-seeking missiles (equivalent to stingers) on Benghazi. So maybe some planes get shot down and that's the justification for more forces.

    The general population is shockingly gullible sometimes...

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    Congress to Vote on Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Unfortunately, Alqaida is all over Syria now.. We waited too long to really help... Now all we can do, or already should have done, is to lob a few missiles and take out their launchers and air fields and its probably too late to do that as well....
    Wait, do you mean lob missiles to HELP or to HURT alquiada forces?? People seem to forget that we are officially at war with alquiada, and now we are usin flimsy reasoning to attack another nation on alquiada's behalf (mostly not Alquaida specifically, but allies directly and indirectly).

    Frankly, the lies have compounded so high that we are literally entering a 1984 system where war is for peace, and today's enemies are tomorrows allies and we never question the change.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    So like in Libya, you want to make one side defenseless...


    Who exactly would be defenseless?

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    It bothers all of us.

    So what pressing reason is there for us to take military action, that will do any good?


    Good question... Now? Not very much--we have lost all advantage of surprise--they are now prepared for us, have moved everything, have consulted with Iran and planned their strategy... It should have been done immediately....

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Obama did that all by himself with the Brits.



    Actually, that is not true.. The Brits referenced the war in Iraq as the main reason they would not participate in Syria...The lack of WMD in Iraq...

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