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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Sorry but I dont like excuses.

    Unless our government can prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt that Syria poses a direct and imminent threat to our security here at home, we should not be getting involved in their civil war in any way, shape, matter or form.
    Very true. I will include our allies in that however. I do believe we should carry some obligations of the would that do not directly threaten us. Probably the only think I strongly disagree with Ron Paul on. If I were to agree with taking action, it would be against the rebels who are trying to overthrow otherwise, somewhat stable governments.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    Further evidence that the GOP & DNC are one and the same. Neither one is concerned over the limitations the Constitution places upon them...they will just ignore it anyhow.
    Personally, I disagree with that being a limit. The constitution specifically grants congress two executive rights. To wage war, and grant letters of marque. In doing so, it does not say it removes these common law rights from the president. Don't bother arguing this point with me, been there several times already with several people over the years. I just wanted to point this out.

    However...

    Any president would be foolish to wage a war that congress will not support financially! To force congress to pass any bill granting such action then makes it a moral requirement for them to support the finances of it.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Just my bit on the subject
    EVERYBODY PLEASE
    contact your congresscritters & KVETCH a LOT!
    tell them to dig in their heels and do NOT allow the warmongers
    to launch yet another war of aggression!

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    I wonder what the Syrians used to deploy their chemical weapons? If it is deployed by a missile then why not deploy anti middle cruisers to shoot down any more missiles?

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Menard_K View Post
    Just my bit on the subject
    EVERYBODY PLEASE
    contact your congresscritters & KVETCH a LOT!
    tell them to dig in their heels and do NOT allow the warmongers
    to launch yet another war of aggression!
    I'm going to. Right after labor day.

    In the meantime, if you write an actual letter, and send it snail mail, those carry more merit because it shows someone took the extra time, and they are tangible. With e-mail, they can hit the "delete," phone calls often forgotten. Yes, mail can go in the circular file, but it is physical and tangible.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I wonder what the Syrians used to deploy their chemical weapons? If it is deployed by a missile then why not deploy anti middle cruisers to shoot down any more missiles?
    Because the missiles that are used to employ chemical weapons are too short ranged to intercept. By the time out anti-missile assets got a fix on the rockets--IF they got a fix on the rockets--they would be impacting on their targets.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Menard_K View Post
    Just my bit on the subject
    EVERYBODY PLEASE
    contact your congresscritters & KVETCH a LOT!
    tell them to dig in their heels and do NOT allow the warmongers
    to launch yet another war of aggression!
    As much as I think we should stay out of this one and that Obama has already made us all look like assholes, a no vote would do great damage to American credibility. Obama has already advertised to the world that he can't walk the walk. Congressional disapproval would only make things worse.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I wonder what the Syrians used to deploy their chemical weapons? If it is deployed by a missile then why not deploy anti middle cruisers to shoot down any more missiles?

    Short distances, no time to target. This was also only a one time thing so far.

    I don't think Syria used chemical weapons, and even if they did, it is their county. They might have sent the message that any village harboring the rebels will be treated like the rebels. Why I think happened though, is they targeted a rebel ammunition and it contained the chemicals.

    Don't know any as fact, just my gut feeling. Until there is absolute proof Syria used the chemical weapons, we should not act like they did.

    Now if chemical weapons were intentionally employed, I think it was by the rebels, to cause this response by Obomba. I think they were hoping for the US to help wipe out Syria's defenses against them like Obomba fell pray to in Libya.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    As much as I think we should stay out of this one and that Obama has already made us all look like assholes, a no vote would do great damage to American credibility. Obama has already advertised to the world that he can't walk the walk. Congressional disapproval would only make things worse.
    As it should.

    Congress needs to stand up to this president.

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    re: Congress not rushing back for Syria vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    As it should.

    Congress needs to stand up to this president.
    They should consider how many Syrians they will have to kill in order to prevent Syrians from killing Syrians.

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