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    Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Apporval

    Obama: US should take military action against Syria - CNN.com

    President Barack Obama said that the United States "should take military action against Syrian targets" in a Rose Garden address Saturday. However, he said he would seek congressional authorization when federal lawmakers return from recess.
    The president appealed for congressional leaders to consider their responsibilities and values in debating U.S. military action in Syria over its alleged chemical weapons use."Some things are more important than partisan differences or the politics of the moment," he said. "Today I'm asking Congress to send a message to the world that we are united as one nation."
    Obama is now seeking Congressional approval for strikes against Syria.

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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Apporv

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    Obama is now seeking Congressional approval for strikes against Syria.

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    I'm glad this issue will now go to Congress. The truth is I, and so many others, have no idea what the right move is but by putting it to Congress, it does make it more of a national decision. Hopefully this issue can be taken care of quickly, no matter how the issue is decided.

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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Apporv

    I think he is making a mistake. The embarrassment from a Congressional defeat could be extraordinary. There is ample precedent in history for a limited military intervention without Congressional authorization going all the way back to Jefferson. If he thought it was necessary (and I agree that it is) he should have taken quick and decisive action.

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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Apporv

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I think he is making a mistake. The embarrassment from a Congressional defeat could be extraordinary. There is ample precedent in history for a limited military intervention without Congressional authorization going all the way back to Jefferson. If he thought it was necessary (and I agree that it is) he should have taken quick and decisive action.
    I would tend to suspect his vote counters tell him he will get approval or he would not have gone this route. To my mind it is almost a nobrainer. It is the right thing to do to make sure that the message goes out that if you use chemical weapons, the cost will outweigh the benefits. That can be done with simple limited military strikes.
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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Apporv

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I think he is making a mistake. The embarrassment from a Congressional defeat could be extraordinary. There is ample precedent in history for a limited military intervention without Congressional authorization going all the way back to Jefferson. If he thought it was necessary (and I agree that it is) he should have taken quick and decisive action.
    I agree it will be struck down because of partisan issues/ political moves liek it was in the House of Commons. I think Obama is trying to back off from this issue and getting struck down in congress gives him an excuse.
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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Apporv

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    I agree it will be struck down because of partisan issues/ political moves liek it was in the House of Commons. I think Obama is trying to back off from this issue and getting struck down in congress gives him an excuse.
    I think so too. That is exactly what I thought.

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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Apporv

    I didn't support our going into Iraq, or Afghanistan, and I don't support our intervention in Syria either.
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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Apporv

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I think he is making a mistake. The embarrassment from a Congressional defeat could be extraordinary. There is ample precedent in history for a limited military intervention without Congressional authorization going all the way back to Jefferson. If he thought it was necessary (and I agree that it is) he should have taken quick and decisive action.
    I don't understand why the President should be embarrassed because Congress votes against what he'd like to see them say. Why would that be embarrassing?

    If anything, I think this is very much a move to AVOID embarrassment. If Obama strikes without Congressional approval, it will be viewed quite unfavorably. If Obama doesn't strike, then his "red line" comment, which has been blown way out of proportion in my opinion, then becomes the embarrassing moment.

    I think this move takes the burden off Obama and puts it onto Congress.

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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Apporv

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    I would tend to suspect his vote counters tell him he will get approval or he would not have gone this route. To my mind it is almost a nobrainer. It is the right thing to do to make sure that the message goes out that if you use chemical weapons, the cost will outweigh the benefits. That can be done with simple limited military strikes.
    My fear is that his uncertainty is getting the better of him. I think people in his administration (Kerry, Rice, etc) are far more enthusiastic about military involvement than he is and I wouldn't be surprised of the bellicose rhetoric we've seen the past week or so has mostly been independently leaked as opposed to White House policy in an effort to shape the narrative over Syria and back him into a corner. The plodding nature of our shift towards Syria has been odd and I worry that he is using Congressional authorization as a procedural crutch to either delay a decision, provide political shielding, or take his administration off the hook for US action. I just can't imagine there is a strong majority in the House for these and I fear embarrassment as Congressional Republicans reflexively vote no and choice liberal contingents rebel to combine for a humiliating Cameron-esque defeat. What that would do to our position in the wider region and in the face of a challenge from Russia I can't begin to imagine.

    Doing nothing was something I'd disagreed with for a long time but to come to the brink of intervention and to arouse all manner of opposition and to prove incapable of action is a terribly dangerous precedent to set.

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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Apporv

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I don't understand why the President should be embarrassed because Congress votes against what he'd like to see them say. Why would that be embarrassing?
    Because it undermines the credibility of the President (Obama and future Presidents) to respond to crises, it sets the precedent that limited military involvement must go to Congress before action (which since Jefferson it usually has not), and after coming to the brink of intervention it boosts Assad, Russia, and their regional allies who can be more confident that the US is a defanged power after Iraq. All of those things in my view are bad and embarrassing.

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