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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Appo

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Do you understand the difference between bush and Obama??

    Bush did not seek approval to go to war with an enemy...

    Obama is seeking approval to give support to our enemies.

    Obama is asking for justification for what should be called treason... Obama supporters has no low to far to stoop in their support for corruption.

    Just as bad as bush supporters were with his crimes.
    I'm sure this made sense to you but frankly I have no idea what you are talking about.
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    Re: Obatake military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Apporval

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    WMD were not found and the world was told that we had proof that they were there... Britain joined with the U.S. and other allies, but no weapons were found...This was brought up in Parliament and the main reason that they voted NO on any involvement in Syria...
    Sorry, but that it not correct.
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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Appo

    [QUOTE=Sherman123;1062261924]There is a vast, vast, vast to the 99th power difference between granting political or material support to a country and going to war on their behalf. [/quoute]
    Hence, the reason I'm hopeful the President (and Congress) will chose to arm the rebel forces rather than fight their war for them via an aerial assault (which would include a strike by launching cruise missiles).

    There is no reason (absolutely, positively none) to suspect that any of the aforementioned countries whether it be Russia, China, or bizarrely enough North Korea will become involved militarily. It would be one of the most bizarre and unanticipated actions in history with literally no reason or forewarning behind it.
    Of course there would be reason behind it...the same "reason" many people belief would be the primary reason our nation's President would go forward with a military strike with or without Congressional approval or multi-lateral support - to save face, to bolster his position of power, to demonstrate a show of force. World leaders have big egos. Why do you think Hitler and Stalin did what they did!? Not that I'm equating President Obama to either dictator. I'm just saying when push comes to shove some world leaders will resort to face saving as rationale to do what they do. China, Iran, NKor and Russia's leaders would be no different under the circumstances. If it increases their position of power on the world stage, they'll do it!

    The plausibility of Syrian attacks beyond its borders is also very low but it is the only possible option that you mentioned which passes the most basic plausibility test.
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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Appo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    There is a vast, vast, vast to the 99th power difference between granting political or material support to a country and going to war on their behalf. [/quoute]
    Hence, the reason I'm hopeful the President (and Congress) will chose to arm the rebel forces rather than fight their war for them via an aerial assault (which would include a strike by launching cruise missiles).



    Of course there would be reason behind it...the same "reason" many people belief would be the primary reason our nation's President would go forward with a military strike with or without Congressional approval or multi-lateral support - to save face, to bolster his position of power, to demonstrate a show of force. World leaders have big egos. Why do you think Hitler and Stalin did what they did!? Not that I'm equating President Obama to either dictator. I'm just saying when push comes to shove some world leaders will resort to face saving as rationale to do what they do. China, Iran, NKor and Russia's leaders would be no different under the circumstances. If it increases their position of power on the world stage, they'll do it!



    Well, it's good to know something I said made sense to you. (sarcasm)
    There is no reason. It is a completely implausible scenario which is why no one serious is considering it. There is zero chance that China or North Korea of all countries are going to start a war over Syria. It's audibly ludicrous.

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    Is there anything wrong with feeling that we should just let them kill each other and not get involved?
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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Apporv

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I don't understand why the President should be embarrassed because Congress votes against what he'd like to see them say. Why would that be embarrassing?

    If anything, I think this is very much a move to AVOID embarrassment. If Obama strikes without Congressional approval, it will be viewed quite unfavorably. If Obama doesn't strike, then his "red line" comment, which has been blown way out of proportion in my opinion, then becomes the embarrassing moment.

    I think this move takes the burden off Obama and puts it onto Congress.
    It think it's embarrassing because there was a lot of show boating and rhetorical build up beforehand. Kerry's speech all but said that we were going to strike. Then, what? Change of heart? It makes him look extremely indecisive as a leader.

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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Apporv

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    It think it's embarrassing because there was a lot of show boating and rhetorical build up beforehand. Kerry's speech all but said that we were going to strike. Then, what? Change of heart? It makes him look extremely indecisive as a leader.
    But he CHOSE to go to Congress. He wasn't told he had to, certainly there's precedent for not doing so. He chose to go to Congress, so why would there be any embarrassment?

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    Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Appo

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    I'm sure this made sense to you but frankly I have no idea what you are talking about.
    I'll use an analogy; if bush took us to war with country A with scant evidence, he at least sought approval, and got it to attack enemies.

    Then country A goes to war with country B; we are still at war with A, now Obama is seeking approval to go to war with B to help A, neglecting that we are still at war with A.

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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Apporv

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    But he CHOSE to go to Congress. He wasn't told he had to, certainly there's precedent for not doing so. He chose to go to Congress, so why would there be any embarrassment?
    Something he could have done a week earlier if he was decisive and had conviction. Doing so now makes him look confused and unsure of his decisions. He should be embarrassed, I'm embarrassed for him. Some believe this is just a way for the president to pass the ball to Congress to make a decision only to claim the moral high ground for political gain.

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    Re: Obama: "US should take military action against Syria", seeks Congressional Apporv

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    Obama: US should take military action against Syria - CNN.com



    Obama is now seeking Congressional approval for strikes against Syria.

    Thoughts? Comments? Another date, my love?
    Your quote says "ALLEGED chemical weapons use"!!!! How should we justify to the world attacking another country based on allegation.

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