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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    He didn't fool me the first time. He was the best candidate and had the most promise. His own party screwed him dithering that first year when he controlled both houses of Congress. The second term? Mitt Romney was an idiot.
    How long did it take for Al Franken to be seated, then giving Democrats their 60 votes?

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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Other than explosions tend to disperse the chemicals?
    Well mac: first and foremost I personally believe that it can't get any worse than what the civilians are putting up with now regardless.

    But here is an excerpt from Time magazine on how the military plans on dealing with that situation.

    That’s why Pentagon officials suggest that any U.S. and allied military strike against Syria will tilt toward military, and command and control, targets —including artillery and missile units that could be used to launch chemical weapons — instead of the bunkers believed to contain them.

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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Why won't Boehner call for a vote, as the British Parliament did? Would Boehner invite the President to "debate" as the Brits do?

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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Excuse me?? Hmm, maybe you missed the half dozen times I've said this PLUS the hello post I made in the come say hi section:

    WE ARE NOT THE WORLD'S POLICEMAN!!

    It is NOT our job to go fix everyone elses woes through the use of military force. People need to deal with their own issues, that's the only way it will be resolved with any possibility of stable success. In case you missed it again...we are not the world's policeman.

    The only thing I support is humanitarian aid, refugee sanctuary, and diplomatic options that do not involve military intervention. Period!
    In other words, no matter how many times reality refutes you, you will remain dogmatic and absolutist on the issue. Ok.

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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I think that anybody who uses the term "boots on the ground" needs to be sent to Syria to be gassed. That is an incredibly dehumanizing term. Our military troops are people, human beings.
    It's a commonly used phrase in the military itself. Get a ****ing grip. Why don't you take up your quibble with Martin Dempsey while you're at it?

    During a House Armed Services hearing, Dempsey was asked whether the United States could send troops to Syria for a possible peacekeeping mission.
    "At this point in time, congressman, a decision is that we will not have any boots on the ground and that that we will not act unilaterally in that part of the world," Dempsey said.
    http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/martin-dempsey

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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    You don't see how that would be a "police action" on our part? There's no guarantee that air strikes would remove chemical weapons. Nor could the US guarantee that such a strike wouldn't not inflict deaths on innocent civilians, including women and children.

    It's certainly more than a warning ticket. Our intervention could instigate consequences that the US just don't need.
    I also see consequences if we don't down the road. But as for the deaths from the chemicals, what do you think is happening now?
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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Well mac: first and foremost I personally believe that it can't get any worse than what the civilians are putting up with now regardless.

    But here is an excerpt from Time magazine on how the military plans on dealing with that situation.
    Command and control facilities are not necessary to deploy and use chemical weapons. Besides, he's had so much warning he'll simply hide mobile command and control among civilian targets before anyone gets a chance to strike.
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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Well, Obama isn't going to do anything, at all, so deploying troops isn't a reality.

    Even if he does do something firing a, "shot across the bow", isn't going to do anything to stop the slaughter, nor stop the employment of chemical weapons.

    If Syria, Iran, China and Iran make good on their threats, then you can count on American troops being deployed. Not even Obama is stupid enough to sit back and let Israel stand alone. If he does, he will officially go down in history as the biggest joke of a president the United States of America has ever had.

    Obama should have just kept his dumbass mouth shut last year with his childish red line comment. I think the biggest problem, is that he actually believes that people take him seriously.
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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well, Obama isn't going to do anything, at all, so deploying troops isn't a reality.

    Even if he does do something firing a, "shot across the bow", isn't going to do anything to stop the slaughter, nor stop the employment of chemical weapons.

    If Syria, Iran, China and Iran make good on their threats, then you can count on American troops being deployed. Not even Obama is stupid enough to sit back and let Israel stand alone. If he does, he will officially go down in history as the biggest joke of a president the United States of America has ever had.

    Obama should have just kept his dumbass mouth shut last year with his childish red line comment. I think the biggest problem, is that he actually believes that people take him seriously.
    Well, he's certainly improved relations with Muslim countries...
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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Then of course there is the little matter of pissing off other nations who already have the opinion we are a bully, and scaring nations who used to be our freinds because we act like loose cannons.

    Don't forget that enduring problem we have with all the mad terrorists who were created and are maintained by our continuous interference in their countries.

    So unless an ally we have a mutual defense treaty with is involved or we are directly threatened, we do not have either the Right or the Duty to take military action ANYWHERE.
    I really can't see us changing the minds of those who think we're bullies or the ones that are our friends. Why Bush himself said that he thought Bashar al-Assad and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad were great buddies while he was in office. And as for the mad terrorists, they're already on the move to start with.
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