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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Read the Fatwa. In the beginning it was about American troops being in Saudia Arabia. It was our cut and running away from Somalia that Bin Laden looked upon America being a paper tiger and he came to the wrong conclusion that when Al Qaeda attacked America on it's own soil on 9-11-01 that Bush's response would be the same as Clinton's launch some cruise missiles.
    At least you agree he came to wrong conclusion then. If you want an example of NPD, go no further than UBL. He saw his Looney Toons plan to knock one building on top of the other with a van full of explosives not work, and decided the US didn't assassinate him afterwards because we were cowards. But did we leave Kenya, Tanzania, or Yemen after the al Qaeda bombings like we did after the humanitarian mission in Somalia?

    It seems to me that that's the mentality of a narcissist, that even after all those examples, and Clinton's retaliation with missile strikes in Sudan and Afghanistan, that he still concluded that the US was a "paper tiger." At least the Japanese Empire learned their mistake after Pearl Harbor; unfortunate that UBL didn't have the capacity to learn from that as well.

    So concluding that 9/11 is the result of Black Hawk Down is only true in an indirect, historic, hindsights' 20-20 sense or POV of UBL sense. Unfortunately that's not a very informative conclusion to make for looking at new situations, as it hinges on the irrational and unpredictable nature of a guy like UBL who's too stupid yet personally ambitious to realize his plans were not working (not getting the US out of the Middle East). It's like the people that say appeasement doesn't work because Chamberlain and Hitler blah blah blah; well, Hitler was a unique character and the circumstances were specific to the point that you could not recreate those conditions again. Bringing it back around, it certainly offers no concrete guidance for our current situation in Syria. We cannot say that not striking=another 9/11, or striking=another 9/11 with any degree of certainty.

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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Obama may be the most incompetent Commander in Chief of the U.S. military in history but he is still the one who issues the orders.
    Exactly. The electorate decided they wanted a Community Organizer for President so they should let him alone to organize the international community as he deems appropriate and necessary.

    Can anyone possibly disagree with that noted Hollywood philosopher, Susan Sarandon, who once said: "He is a community organizer like Jesus was ... And now, we're a community and he can organize us."

    Isn't that just fabulous?

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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Bush went to war at least by looks out of acts of aggression towards the US.
    What looks of aggression?

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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    What looks of aggression?
    9/11. Remember that? Was a big day in our history. Its why Bush went to war. Not because anyone was having a civil war in a country that means nothing to us.

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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    At least you agree he came to wrong conclusion then. If you want an example of NPD, go no further than UBL. He saw his Looney Toons plan to knock one building on top of the other with a van full of explosives not work, and decided the US didn't assassinate him afterwards because we were cowards. But did we leave Kenya, Tanzania, or Yemen after the al Qaeda bombings like we did after the humanitarian mission in Somalia?
    We weren't in Kenya, Tanzania or Yeman before 9-11-01.

    Yeman post 9/11 is better known as "Bush's Secret War Against Al Qaeda."

    What hasn't been scrubbed from the internet is best not to be posted on the DP.
    You may or may not remember when "Bush's Secret War Against Al Qaeda" was leaked back in late May of 2012. The Special Warfare community went nuts.

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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Exactly. The electorate decided they wanted a Community Organizer for President so they should let him alone to organize the international community as he deems appropriate and necessary.

    Can anyone possibly disagree with that noted Hollywood philosopher, Susan Sarandon, who once said: "He is a community organizer like Jesus was ... And now, we're a community and he can organize us."

    Isn't that just fabulous?
    Most Americans especially the uneducated, uninformed and misinformed have no idea what a community organizer is. Did I just describe Obama's voters ? I believe I did.

    Saul Alinsky is who created the community organizer to agitate and organize uneducated people to further a radical socialist agenda.

    Most community organizers in America are radical un-American internationalist socialist. Those community organizers who aren't are usually society's losers who can't make it in the private sector. I believe Obama is both.

    "Industrial Areas Foundation" are schools for radicals that Alinsky has set up all over the world to keep the pipe line full of socialist trouble makers.

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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Saving millions of US dollars. Possible many American lives.
    Right now I do not see an airstrike doing that
    "The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations." `Thomas Jefferson

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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No cost to US national security.
    Right now maybe, but how about the future?
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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    So noted.The buck stopped at Bush's desk and Bush didn't spend eight years blaming Clinton's failed anti terrorist policies. Probably because unlike the current President, Bush didn't suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
    How about that buck again? Wasn't it Bush that said he can run but he can't hide? bin Laden sure proved that theory wrong, huh? As a matter of fact Bush was dealing with the leader of Pakistan and was believing all of his lies; and, when asked about the hunt for bin Laden by the press Bush replied with a nonchalant answer.
    "The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations." `Thomas Jefferson

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    Re: "No boots on the ground in Syria," Says Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    How about that buck again? Wasn't it Bush that said he can run but he can't hide? bin Laden sure proved that theory wrong, huh? As a matter of fact Bush was dealing with the leader of Pakistan and was believing all of his lies; and, when asked about the hunt for bin Laden by the press Bush replied with a nonchalant answer.
    Did we find him ? If we are to believe Obama and a few Navy SEAL's we did.

    And it was G.W. Bush's policies that led to finding Bin Laden. Even Leon Panetta finally had come out agreeing that it was Bush's policies that Obama opposed that led to Bin Laden.

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