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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Yes how noble of Parliament! I'm sure it had nothign to do with keeping their noses clean with elections coming soon.
    Maybe, or maybe it is because they know what would be coming next--ground troops, I mean "peace keepers".

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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's a pretty big leap to say that the weapons we alleged Saddam had and could not prove he had (though we did sell him some) have now appeared in Syria. Man, how many countries are these "WMDs" going to make us invade? And didn't they have these things or were building the capabilities back in the 90's?
    It is a big leap but it is entirely plausable. The problem isnt countries having WMD'S its when they threaten to use them or actually use them in this case and it was the same with Saddam. If we allow dictaorships to use chemcial weapons at their own pleasure when does it end? To we draw a new line in the sand? Maybe tactical nukes?
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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    People scoffed when Bush said Iraq was bypassing UN inspectors by moving WMDs to Syria...
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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    It is a big leap but it is entirely plausable. The problem isnt countries having WMD'S its when they threaten to use them or actually use them in this case and it was the same with Saddam. If we allow dictaorships to use chemcial weapons at their own pleasure when does it end? To we draw a new line in the sand? Maybe tactical nukes?
    Big leaps are not the basis for foreign invasion. Sorry. And if they use chemical weapons, it's not our problem. It's been over a decade already, I don't want to tack on another decade and kill off more Americans for not our problem.
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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    My issue with this is simple.

    The rebels want the west to get involved.

    The only way that is going to happen is if Assad uses chemical weapons.

    Assad does not want the west to get involved.

    The only way that is going to happen is if he uses Chemical Weapons.

    Who has more to gain from their use here?

    That question should lead us to be extremely cautious.

    While I hate Assads guts and hope he gets Gaddafi'd... I also don't want to support terrorists and it seems that's exactly what a fair number of these Rebels in Syria are.
    The other side of that coin, is that Assad believes that the West has the stomach to get involved...so far, he's winning that bet.

    Another thing to consider: what better way to end the civil war, by starting a shooting war with Israel. If that happens, the rebels will drop what they're doing to take advantage of the opportunity to actually go to war with Israel.
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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    True enough! Saddam had them thats for sure and they had to end up somewhere.
    Saddam had them before 1991 thats for sure.

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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    U.N. inspectors start leaving Syria; Obama meets with security team - CNN.com



    US seems to have lots of evidence pointing to the Syrian Government. UN inspectors should be getting back with their findings soon.
    The only thing the UN will say is that there was a chemical attack and approx where it came from and how it was delivered .. maybe, and nothing on who did it.

    And the so called evidence is about as credible as the evidence Bush showed us about Saddam.

    The very fact he has these exact numbers on the amount of dead, means that part if not all of the evidence comes from the opposition, who should not be trusted.

    The only thing that I see as damaging to the Assad government is the supposed phone intercept... although I am sceptical since there is no context what so ever.

    I want to punish the correct criminals, not just those we dont like.

    We shall see what the UN finds out.
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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Saddam had them before 1991 thats for sure.
    And they were destroyed after the gulf war according the head of the Iraq WMD project who defected to the Germans in the mid 1990s... that is a well known fact.
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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Big leaps are not the basis for foreign invasion. Sorry. And if they use chemical weapons, it's not our problem. It's been over a decade already, I don't want to tack on another decade and kill off more Americans for not our problem.
    As world leaders it is your problem. Like I said if you allow a country like Syria to fire chemical weapons whats stopping other countries following their lead?
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    The only thing the UN will say is that there was a chemical attack and approx where it came from and how it was delivered .. maybe, and nothing on who did it.

    And the so called evidence is about as credible as the evidence Bush showed us about Saddam.

    The very fact he has these exact numbers on the amount of dead, means that part if not all of the evidence comes from the opposition, who should not be trusted.

    The only thing that I see as damaging to the Assad government is the supposed phone intercept... although I am sceptical since there is no context what so ever.

    I want to punish the correct criminals, not just those we dont like.

    We shall see what the UN finds out.

    Too be honest Pete it wont matter what evidence the US or the UN put out there because people are only going to claim that the information is false. They will say that the UN is useless and big bad America forged the evidence etc.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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