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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

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    Ok, whatever dude! Grow up and let it go! You got one right, for a change. Big win for you!...LOL!!!
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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Like I said, didn't know it'd bother you so much.
    It either bothered the hell out of you, or you don't have a clue about the topic, because you sure as hell weren't letting it go...and you still aren't.
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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It either bothered the hell out of you, or you don't have a clue about the topic, because you sure as hell weren't letting it go...and you still aren't.
    I gave you my input on the topic and you seem to be ignoring it. Opting instead to bellyache about how it was so difficult to admit you got something wrong.
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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Yep. I agree. If we are going to take action against Assad for deployment of chemical weapons, we better be very sure that actually happened, given the fact that it's hard to believe he had any reason to use them (he's winning the civil war - more or less - with conventional weapons) and given the fact that only the opposition would seem to benefit from it in terms of international support.
    I don't expect psychopathic dictators to behave rationally. Why would he continue to bomb civilians indiscriminately if he's already "winning" (and I'd disagree with you on this, but that's another issue). As far as circumstantial evidence goes, I find it odd that Assad waited five days before letting UN inspectors in, and in the meanwhile shelling the area in which the chems were used so as to remove all evidence. If I were Assad and the rebels had used the chems, I'd personally escort the inspectors to the site to consolidate such a huge diplomatic victory over the rebels.
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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    #6 The United States is just as guilty for that "genocide" you speak of. We assisted them and turned a blind eye when they did it under Reagan. When they did it under Bush Sr. it was because we encouraged the people to "rise up" and then left them hanging. We knew what would happen when we left them.
    Would you have us bomb ourselves?
    We aren't "just as guilty." Even the dirtbag Kissinger acknowledged that it would be better for us if both sides lost; our goal was to get as close to that as possible, even though we saw Iraq as the lesser evil. We shouldn't have supported Saddam in the 80s, but that was then, this is now. Our current foreign policy makers cannot be held accountable for the actions of their predecessors.
    #7 The "genocide" was not even genocide. It was the slaughter of people in one small area. Millions of them still exist. There was never any attempt to wipe them out. The correct term is "mass murder".
    The Hague would disagree with you on that:

    BBC NEWS | Europe | Killing of Iraq Kurds 'genocide'
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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    U.N. inspectors start leaving Syria; Obama meets with security team - CNN.com



    US seems to have lots of evidence pointing to the Syrian Government. UN inspectors should be getting back with their findings soon.

    So the proposed response is to send in missiles that will probably kill more civilians than the chemical attacks?

    Dumb.
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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    So the proposed response is to send in missiles that will probably kill more civilians than the chemical attacks?

    Dumb.
    We don't know what scale and scope of an attack in relation to Military Action is even being discussed. Will chemical weapons facilities be targeted directly? Will artillery and rocket systems, aircraft, missile production facilities be targeted? All questions we simply do not know the answer to.

    In relation to chemical weapon facilities, it should depend on where the weapons are stored and how close they are to civillian population. One would hope that this is something that is being taken into into consideration.

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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

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    We don't know what scale and scope of an attack in relation to Military Action is even being discussed. Will chemical weapons facilities be targeted directly? Will artillery and rocket systems, aircraft, missile production facilities be targeted? All questions we simply do not know the answer to. In relation to chemical weapon facilities, it should depend on where the weapons are stored and how close they are to civillian population. One would hope that this is something that is being taken into into consideration.
    The options for striking Assad's chemical weapons complex are not very good. There are around a dozen facilities where the chemicals are formulated and weaponized, and probably around fifty storage depots. All of these facilities have been situated in populated areas to complicate destruction from above. Securing these facilities is even more daunting and would require ~80,000 boots on the ground plus support personnel in the midst of a civil war in which every warring faction would seek to overrun the compounds and steal the WMDs.

    In light of the above, I imagine that a US strike scenario would be limited to destroying conventional military assets (i.e. airfields, motor pools, etc.). The aim here is to send a strong message, but not militarily decapitate the SA.

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    Re: 1,429 people were killed by a chemical attack carried out by Syrian Gov- US gov c

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    A military strike would make it very difficult to locate and properly dispose of these chemical weapons. I would also prefer more evidence from our government than them just saying they have evidence. We did that 10 years ago, and it didn't exactly turn out well for anyone.
    Meaning Iraq? Yeah - we didn't exactly find WMD's once we got in there. But the thing is - we gave that psycho a decade between Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom. Bad mistake. I'm sure Saddam shipped a lot of things to his buddy Assad. I will say this - Saddam didn't kill 80,000 Kurds with love and chocolate.

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