Will the peace summit occur before or after the bombings?
"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
It's not going to occur.
“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman
During the last months of Bush's presidency with the anti war rhetoric ratcheting up prior to the election, Carter went on his own to Syria to speak to the leaders of Hamas. Bush begged him not to go because of the situation with Assad at that time and their ties with Hamas which to this day our government views as a terrorist group. But the old peanut farmer went anyway undermining the efforts at the time to push Hamas in a corner who were helping Al Qaeda through Iran with attacks on our service men in Iraq.
Jimmy Carter To Meet With Hamas Leader | Judicial Watch
And remember Nancy Pelosi's junket to Syria, she too along with Democrat friends in the House went to meet Assad. Bush begged them not to go.
Remembering Nancy PelosiThe Syrian regime used her meeting to its full propaganda advantage. After concluding his meeting with Pelosi, Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem, said, “These people in the United States who are opposing dialogue I tell them one thing: Dialogue is … the only method to close the gap existing between two countries.” Meanwhile, unbeknownst to Pelosi, Syrian officers and North Korean scientists scrambled to put the finishing touches on a covert nuclear facility, and Syrian dissidents dove for cover, interpreting correctly that Assad would interpret the end of America’s isolation of Assad as a green light for murder. Assad, in hindsight, welcomed Pelosi not as a politician with whom to have sincere dialogue, but rather as a useful idiot who might help relieve him of international pressure.
But the useful idiocy didn't stop there. John Kerry later made 6 visits to dine and TALK with Assad
Pictures emerge showing US Secretary John Kerry and President Assad dining in Syria together - Middle East - World - The IndependentDuring the visit, he said in a press conference: “President Barack Obama's administration considers Syria a key player in Washington's efforts to revive the stalled Middle East peace process.
"Syria is an essential player in bringing peace and stability to the region."
Well today those chemical weapons many on the left didn't believe to be a real threat, a murderous dictator has used them on his own people and millions fleeing the country. That's what talk gets you. Talk Talk Talk, that's what the left are good at. Too bad winning an election by beating the anti-war drums day in and day out was more important, and because of it, there's genocide and complete chaos in the region today.
It doesn't surprise me that Carter wants to go TALK some more. And why Obama running all over the place trying to TALK someone into joining his effort to shoot off a few missiles, like that is going to do anything at this point except kill more civilians. Assad doesn't need any help doing that, he seems to be real good at it.
Last edited by vesper; 09-04-13 at 01:28 PM.
Carter wasn't president when the shaw came to power so he's not responsible for the people of Iran hating the shaw due to him trying to westernize its culture by gun force. The shaw got cancer and left Iran for medical treatment which is when the ayatollah came back to Iran from his exile. Carter didn't welcome him back nor did he trust him. The shaw came to the US for treatment and the ayatollah demanded we turn him over to Iran for execution. Carter didn't turn him over.
What did you expect any president to do? Go to war with Iran for letting the ayatollah back in country? You are not reading historical points. You are reading talking points.
Here's a little history for you.
Archived-Articles: Jimmy Carter's Human Rights Disaster in Iran
The election of Mr. Carter as president of the United States in 1976, with his vocal emphasis on the importance of human rights in international affairs, was a turning point in US-Iran relations. The Shah of Iran was accused of torturing over 3000 prisoners. Under the banner of promoting human rights, Carter made excessive demands of the Shah, threatening to withhold military and social aid. Carter pressured the Shah to release "political prisoners", whose ranks included radical fundamentalists, communists and terrorists. Many of these individuals are now among the opponents we face in our "war on terrorism".
The Carter Administration insisted that the Shah disband military tribunals, demanding they be replaced by civil courts. The effect was to allow trials to serve as platforms for anti-government propaganda. Carter pressured Iran to permit "free assembly", which encouraged and fostered fundamentalist anti-government rallies. The British government and its MI6 intelligence agency also heightened the Shah's precariousness. The government-controlled BBC presented Iranians with a dossier of twenty hour newscasts detailing the location of all anti-Shah demonstrations and consistent interviews with the exiled outcast Ayatollah Khomeini, making a religious scholar few Iranians knew about into an overnight sensation.
When the Shah was unable to meet the Carter Administration and British demands, the Carter Administration reportedly ordered the Central Intelligence Agency to stop $4 million per year in funding to religious Mullahs who then became outspoken and vehement opponents of the Shah. Unfortunately, the Shah's efforts to defuse the volatile situation in Iran failed, despite the grant even of free and democratic elections. Confronted with lack of US support and unleashed Mullah fury, the Shah of Iran fled the country.
Does anyone but me think Carter is senile?
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