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    Re: Jimmy Carter calls for Syria peace summit

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    Well, Montecresto, Obama is also a "constitutional scholar". Beware selective bias.
    That's what we've heard.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter calls for Syria peace summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I thought the Pentagon bungled the rescue? Or was Carter in his flight suit out there leading the mission. I was in the army during the Carter administration. The military and the MIC wasn't too keen on the peacenik, he didn't throw them many bones, there were large complaints that parts and equipment was thin. But my buddies that stayed on told me Ronnie "fixed" all that.
    Sorry. I thought the Commander in Chief had something to do with the military.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter calls for Syria peace summit

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Sorry. I thought the Commander in Chief had something to do with the military.
    Only when they're succesful.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter calls for Syria peace summit

    I would disagree. Diplomatic measures in foreign policy have immeasurable benefits, even if it doesn't seem readily apparent to those back home.
    Be skeptical of anyone who wears a political label - party or ideology - with pride. Most of our problems are because people love to "debate" (it isn't debate, but they pretend it is), but are not interested in developing solutions. Solutions require empathy, thought, and compromise, and most folks aren't interested.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter calls for Syria peace summit

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Sorry. I thought the Commander in Chief had something to do with the military.
    Right, gives them a green light!

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    Re: Jimmy Carter calls for Syria peace summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Right, gives them a green light!
    I've read accounts about Carter's handling of the hostage crisis. He had a failed policy in Iran. He trusted the mullahs because they were also men of faith. He screwed the Shaw, a moderate but imperfect leader. He helped to install the leadership in power in Iran today. He should have prayed for no sandstorm.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter calls for Syria peace summit

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    I've read accounts about Carter's handling of the hostage crisis. He had a failed policy in Iran. He trusted the mullahs because they were also men of faith. He screwed the Shaw, a moderate but imperfect leader. He helped to install the leadership in power in Iran today. He should have prayed for no sandstorm.
    Wasn't arguing that. The failed rescue attempt was NOT Carter's fault. And the CIA installed the government that you say he helped replace. Would you fancy another country orchestrating our government for us?

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    Re: Jimmy Carter calls for Syria peace summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wasn't arguing that. The failed rescue attempt was NOT Carter's fault. And the CIA installed the government that you say he helped replace. Would you fancy another country orchestrating our government for us?
    I guess Truman was the only president to let the buck stop at his desk.

    Prior to Carter we made cash payments to the mullahs in Iran to keep the Shaw in power. Yes they were through the CIA. Carter believed the mullahs to be Godly men and trustworthy. He ordered the CIA to stop the payments. You know the rest.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter calls for Syria peace summit

    If the buck really stopped at the presidents desk, most of them would have been impeached.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter calls for Syria peace summit

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wasn't arguing that. The failed rescue attempt was NOT Carter's fault. And the CIA installed the government that you say he helped replace. Would you fancy another country orchestrating our government for us?
    A prescient opinion piece from 18 months ago. Ronen Bergman: Lessons on Egypt From Carter and the Shah - WSJ.com

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