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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Backwards, the legality is not prohibited.
    “[Congressional jurisdiction of power] is limited to certain enumerated objects, which concern all the members of the republic, but which are not to be attained by the separate provisions of any.” – James Madison, Federalist 14

    The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined . . . to be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce.” – James Madison, Federalist 45

    “The Constitution allows only the means which are ‘necessary,’ not those which are merely ‘convenient,’ for effecting the enumerated powers. If such a latitude of construction be allowed to this phrase as to give any non-enumerated power, it will go to every one, for there is not one which ingenuity may not torture into a convenience in some instance or other, to some one of so long a list of enumerated powers. It would swallow up all the delegated powers, and reduce the whole to one power, as before observed” – Thomas Jefferson, 1791

    “This specification of particulars [the 18 enumerated powers of Article I, Section 8] evidently excludes all pretension to a general legislative authority, because an affirmative grant of special powers would be absurd as well as useless if a general authority was intended.” – Alexander Hamilton, Federalist 83

    No legislative act … contrary to the Constitution can be valid. To deny this would be to affirm that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid.” – Alexander Hamilton, Federalist 78

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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Are you trying to argue that Slavery was unconstitutional in the 18th century?
    the constitution does not support slavery,...no where will you find it says that.

    the constitution is a limitation placed on government.

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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Wrong Paul. These corporations merely realized it was MORE profitable to make these things using little children shackled to electronics workstations in the third world. Making these in USA would still be profitable if we protected from reverse engineering and the ONLY way to buy these items were from Americans. American companies are finding they are really not beholden to protecting Americans in this new global economy with wide open trade.
    The chip manufacturing industry produces a lot of toxic waste. These industries were deemed to be not wanted in the US. Even Jobs told the President he wouldn't/couldn't move many of his jobs back to the US due to the regulatory environment. When it becomes more important not to have particular industries in the country, there will be fewer jobs in those industries...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    go to gimmesometruth's post #439 and refute this excerpt:

    i look forward to reading your attempts to refute it

    excuse me, the 14th amendment is what?

    it makes state adhere to the bill of rights
    ........the bill of rights are a limitation placed on governments............the bill of rights are declaratory and restrictive clause placed on the government.........or have you missed reading that

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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post

    No legislative act contrary to the Constitution can be valid.
    And I keep pointing to the fact that in 1937 the SC found that Washinton's min wage did not violate the Constitution.

    QED
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    And I keep pointing to the fact that in 1937 the SC found that Washinton's min wage did not violate the Constitution.

    QED
    if the court stated , there is no right to free speech........is the court right?

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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    excuse me, the 14th amendment is what?

    it makes state adhere to the bill of rights
    ........the bill of rights are a limitation placed on governments............the bill of rights are declaratory and restrictive clause placed on the government.........or have you missed reading that
    still waiting on your refutation
    he cited the supreme court opinion
    show us why it should not be found valid

    while i will wait for your reply i will not hold my breath awaiting what is certain to be a bogus effort
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    still waiting on your refutation
    he cited the supreme court opinion
    show us why it should not be found valid

    while i will wait for your reply i will not hold my breath awaiting what is certain to be a bogus effort
    right to property

    right to association

    right to commerce

    right to contract

    all known rights, which the bill of right places a restriction on the government from violating.

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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the constitution does not support slavery,...no where will you find it says that.

    the constitution is a limitation placed on government.
    Again, you keep ignoring our HISTORY. Dred Scott decision shows it WAS legal, the court found that before and after 1856 that Blacks, free or slaves, had NO citizenship rights....and states could not be interfered with in creating laws protecting slave ownership.

    It was based upon views held by the founders.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    right to property

    right to association

    right to commerce

    right to contract

    all known rights, which the bill of right places a restriction on the government from violating.
    refute the supreme court decision, which decision was provided for you
    until then, you have nothing but more inane blabber
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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