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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    The views of the founders were a product of their time, they OWNED SLAVES, the Constitution allowed this, we don't hold to those fundamentalist ideas any longer. Your argument on min wage STILL ignores ALL of the history between then and now.....and the SC has ruled on min wage:


    The Supreme Court, in a 5-4 decision written by Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, ruled that the minimum wage law did not violate the Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment and Parrish was entitled to damages. The Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause provides that no state "shall deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." West Coast Hotel alleged that because the minimum wage law prevented employers and employees from freely negotiating wages, it restrained "liberty" of contract without due process of the law. In response, the Court flatly declared that the "Constitution does not speak of freedom of contract" and that such a freedom is thus "a qualified, and not an absolute, right" under the Fourteenth Amendment. The Court argued that while the Fourteenth Amendment bans arbitrary deprivation of life, liberty, and property by the state (or protects "procedural" due process, e.g., a right to a fair trial), it does not prohibit the states' ability to "reasonably" regulate the terms of certain activities for the public good (does not protect "substantive" due process, e.g., the basic right to freely contract).
    all your giving me is, you dont like the founders...so this gives you the excuse to violate the constitution?

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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    all your giving me is, you dont like the founders...so this gives you the excuse to violate the constitution?
    I wouldn't expect much more...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    all your giving me is, you dont like the founders...so this gives you the excuse to violate the constitution?
    Wow... I post historical findings of the SC, who found that min wage does not violate the 14th.......and you ignore it.....falling back to White slave owner views.

    Evolve.
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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I wouldn't expect much more...
    your correct AP..as you usually are

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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Where do families come into play in your view? There will always be those that choose not to work, and as long as entitlements are available will be content with what government provides. All a minimum wage does is to give less incentive for business to provide entry level jobs in the marketplace...
    Good afternoon, AP.

    Unfortunately there are many who are not content with what they receive for free from the government, hence the clamor for more all the time! They look around, and see others who have what they don't, and resentment and envy kick in, I guess. Work really appears to be a 4-letter word for some who chose not to work.

    I agree that there are many who would like a job, though, and those I feel sorry for! Many have college loans to pay for, and without business providing entry level jobs to give them a start, what can they do?

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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Intel used to do most of its manufacturing in this country until environmental regulations forced it to move overseas to remain competitive.
    BS, Intel, like all chip manufactures moved to low wage environs. Fab facilities are very easy to move, worker requirements are fairly minimal.
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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    What Reagan meant was a separate minimum wage for youth, not blacks. There is a reason Jimmy did not jump all over that. Reagan had brought up the idea of a separate minimum wage for youth before.
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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Wow... I post historical findings of the SC, who found that min wage does not violate the 14th.......and you ignore it.....falling back to White slave owner views.



    Evolve.

    the 14th amendment was created for the slave population only, and stated by the ussc in 1873.

    it essentially, took 1-8 of the BOR, and made the states adhere to them, becuase the BOR did not apply to the states before the civil war.

    1 -8 of the BOR are limitations on the government.......they are restrictive clauses, which the government cannot make laws concerning.

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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good afternoon, AP.

    Unfortunately there are many who are not content with what they receive for free from the government, hence the clamor for more all the time! They look around, and see others who have what they don't, and resentment and envy kick in, I guess. Work really appears to be a 4-letter word for some who chose not to work.

    I agree that there are many who would like a job, though, and those I feel sorry for! Many have college loans to pay for, and without business providing entry level jobs to give them a start, what can they do?
    Good afternoon pg. It would behoove many to see the skills employers desire before they choose a major or at least choose one they are passionate about and don't worry about the compensation...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    all your giving me is, you dont like the founders...so this gives you the excuse to violate the constitution?
    no
    what he has given you is factual information and citations, which then destroyed your shallow argument
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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