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    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Minimum wage workers we all despise so much? Where the hell do you get your perspective? What makes you think "right-wingers" despise minimum wage workers? Get a clue dip****, a lot of us started off in those jobs until we gained the skills to move up. Just because there are people who do not improve their position in life does not mean they deserve $15 to do a $7 an hour job. It is no surprise to those of us who understand business that those pushing for doubling their pay can't understand the dynamics, that's why they make minimum wage.
    Comical isn't it. Most every "right winger" has put more than their fair of time in along the minimum wage scale. We're the ones not standing in the welfare line, and we worked and scrapped our way out of those ranks.

    Liberals don't understand money. It's not a "reward" for work. It's a measurement of value; it indicates how rare or unique something is. That's why a diamond costs more than a regular rock. That's why a brain surgeon makes more than a salesman, unless that salesman can outsell 10 other salespeople.

    A third grader could work at McDonalds. Literally.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, ttwtt78640.

    Just when you think you've heard it all!?! So the workers at McDonalds in New York want their minimum wage doubled to $15 per hour! Why do they think they're worth that? Experienced 30-year carpenters have seen their wages fall to $15 to $18 per hour since the housing/remodeling bust of a few years ago.

    I like McDonalds breakfasts occasionally when I'm strapped for time, but I'm not going to pay $8 dollars for a sausage McMuffin with egg! There will be layoffs since there won't be the traffic there used to be, so this is a win? IT WON'T FLY HERE IN NE Ohio, IMO!
    The fix is easy. Go back to hiring students and teenagers part-time, raise the hourly a buck or two, and save on the benefits.

    Just nix the full-time employees altogether, other than a manager and an assistant.

    That's the Obama way to lower the unemployment rate anyway.

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    People are actually presenting the argument that fast food workers should be unionized and payed $15 an hour....

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    The NEW America: Don't try to better yourself. Don't try to learn a skill you can market yourself. Don't try to extend your education so you will guarantee a better income.
    Why $15.00? Why not $15.31? Where did $15 come from? Who started this "Million Losers March"? Even unions bring some form of justification to the bargaining table. This mob wants Mo' Money because it better than less money. These welfare scums of the future made the decision long ago to not do a damn thing with their lives and now they are saying "pay for us". What are their plans to do with this money? Buy a better grade of crack?!
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Missing variable: worker productivity. We should factor this in, yes?
    Excellent point!!

    When confronted with an issue like this the employer will usually look to whatever solution gives them the most productivity for their labor dollar. More and more often that dollar is being spent on automation and if you don't believe that the fast food business will become fully automated you are mistaken.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Excellent point!!

    When confronted with an issue like this the employer will usually look to whatever solution gives them the most productivity for their labor dollar. More and more often that dollar is being spent on automation and if you don't believe that the fast food business will become fully automated you are mistaken.
    Outstanding Luther....I was just about to type something similar....
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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Years ago I worked with a guy at a dealership who changed oil. That is all he did, oil changes. He tried to get a pay increase to the same level that those of us who were highly trained technicians made because he had 15 years experience changing oil. My service manager (who is extremely liberal and still a good friend of mine years after we both left the dealership) told him that wasn't going to happen and explained it very well in a way that certainly applies to this argument.

    "Billy, there is no such thing as 15 years experience changing oil. What you have is 6 months of experience 30 times. The job is just not that complicated. If you want to make what these guys do learn to do what they do."
    I owned a manufacturing company and I had a guy working for me who kept the shop floor swept. Nice guy, paid him ten or eleven bucks an hour, don't remember how much exactly. One day he came to me and said he needed more money because was having a hard time paying his bills. I had to tell him that I was sorry, "your ability to earn money isn't predicated on your ability to spend it." He had a choice. Quit going to the bar every night or learn a skill other than sweeping.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Excellent point!!

    When confronted with an issue like this the employer will usually look to whatever solution gives them the most productivity for their labor dollar. More and more often that dollar is being spent on automation and if you don't believe that the fast food business will become fully automated you are mistaken.
    Yup.

    Many of these fast food chains are a strike away from touch screen ordering and an automated cash register.

    It doesn't matter how low wages are when your workforce is on strike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The fix is easy. Go back to hiring students and teenagers part-time, raise the hourly a buck or two, and save on the benefits.

    Just nix the full-time employees altogether, other than a manager and an assistant.

    That's the Obama way to lower the unemployment rate anyway.
    Good afternoon, erod.

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    Oh please continue to strike and demand double the wages when you're barely worth what you earn now.

    The fats foid workers demanding double pay is indicative of a economy thats been run by a incompetent Liberal.

    Fast food jobs and part time work is all thats available.

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