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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    There is no evidence linking McDonald's to obesity.
    That is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Diet is linked to obesity. McDonald's food is horrible and should not be consumed (other than the salads, without the unhealthy dressings). Just one Big Mac has 29 grams of fat, 10 grams of saturated fat, and 970 mg's of sodium. The double quarter pounder is even worse, with 43 grams of fat, 19 grams of saturated fat, and 1280 mg of sodium.
    Medical fact: a diet high in fat, sugar, animal products and salt (sodium), and low in fibre, vitamins and minerals is linked with cancers of the breast and bowel, and heart disease. That describes an average McDonald's meal. Chewing is essential for good health, as it promotes the flow of digestive juices which break down the food and send nutrients into the blood. McDonald's food is so lacking in bulk it is hardly possible to chew it. Even their own figures show that a "quarter-pounder" is 48% water.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Please do not twist my words or take my words out of context. That is insulting and infuriating. My example of a Fireman was based on Sawdust saying that minimum wage had to be based on what a human being can produce. "To achieve that minimum wage, how much value do you calculate the worker must produce for his employer? Wages aren't based on need. They are based on production.". -- SAWDUST
    I didn't twist a thing. You seem to think that a firefighter does not produce anything. They're product is firefighting, well worth more than $2p/hr.
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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Instead of coming up with your silly responses or personal attacks, why don't you explain why you think minimum wage should be based only on what a person produces and not based on services. You said "Wages aren't based on need. They are based on production." So what about people that don't produce anything? And don't tell me again about never starting a company. I own a company and I would bet I make more during a bad quarter than you have ever earned in a year.
    Doubt it. How many non productive workers so you carry in this company that you own? How do you determine wages for your employees? Is there a generally expected wage or do you just open your checkbook and let your employees take as much as they need? If you are really in business I know the answers.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    That is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Diet is linked to obesity. McDonald's food is horrible and should not be consumed (other than the salads, without the unhealthy dressings). Just one Big Mac has 29 grams of fat, 10 grams of saturated fat, and 970 mg's of sodium. The double quarter pounder is even worse, with 43 grams of fat, 19 grams of saturated fat, and 1280 mg of sodium.
    Medical fact: a diet high in fat, sugar, animal products and salt (sodium), and low in fibre, vitamins and minerals is linked with cancers of the breast and bowel, and heart disease. That describes an average McDonald's meal. Chewing is essential for good health, as it promotes the flow of digestive juices which break down the food and send nutrients into the blood. McDonald's food is so lacking in bulk it is hardly possible to chew it. Even their own figures show that a "quarter-pounder" is 48% water.
    You can rant all you want. Fact is there is no evidence linking McDonald's to obesity. There is propaganda, of which you have provided a fine example, but there is no evidence.
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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    If they need to pay workers 7$/hour to make a profit there would be no McDonald's in developed countries besides the U.S.. That or Americans can't take a price increase, if you want to increase the profits form it just raise the price. There is also the fact that for some reason the burgers, drinks, and fries, etc. have much larger portions in the U.S. if you don't want to raise prices just serve less like the human sized portions every other country gets.
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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    If they need to pay workers 7$/hour to make a profit there would be no McDonald's outside the U.S.. That or Americans can't take a price increase.
    What makes you think there's nowhere where McDonald's workers make less?
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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    What makes you think there's nowhere where McDonald's workers make less?
    In the developed world the U.S. has a verys mall minimum wage the only way you can go lower is to go to developing countries.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    We are now accusing people of something they aren't?
    I don't believe I made any unjust accusations. I am just responding to your post, I couldn't care less what you stick next to your name.

    I think all you god-squad GOP lemmings...
    I'm glad you are so against accusing people of things.

    BTW, don't think I haven't noticed that you used this as a diversion rather than reply to the rock-solid facts in my post.
    So far, you've refuted nothing.
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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    In the developed world the U.S. has a verys mall minimum wage the only way you can go lower is to go to developing countries.
    "If they need to pay workers 7$/hour to make a profit there would be no McDonald's outside the U.S." Your words, not mine. I see no distinction in your claim between the developed world and developing countries. Would you like to change your claim?
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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Doubt it. How many non productive workers so you carry in this company that you own? How do you determine wages for your employees? Is there a generally expected wage or do you just open your checkbook and let your employees take as much as they need? If you are really in business I know the answers.
    I doubt you know much. My company was 100 employees, and we were recently purchased by a Fortune 500 and I am now an officer in that firm with voting stock. So now we have right around 165,000 employees. A small portion of my company produces software - the rest supply consulting services or are internal support staff for the organization. Our wages for the consultants are determined by the market. When my partners and I owned the smaller company it was the same way - software and services with a small support staff. And if you had any kind of balls you would stand to what you said and justify it. Be a man. "Wages aren't based on need. They are based on production.". -- SAWDUST

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