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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    An on demand lifesaving, property saving service. Just to mention some of what they do.
    So a cop that is in charge of putting evidence in a back room or collecting coins from a parking meter should be paid less than minimum wage? That's what Sawdust thinks.
    Do you agree with him and this quote of his? "Wages aren't based on need. They are based on production.".--SAWDUST

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    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    What is a "fair" wage? This baffles me. What does a McDonald's employee do that deserves $1900 a month (someone stated that amount)? Did they have to risk anything for the job? Or just apply? What kind of education? A poster here demonstrated that one certainly doesn't need to invest money in an education. So they deserve ~$1400-$1900 a month to put "burgers" in microwaves or whatever they cook in? Even in a crap economy where people stop going to the store? So what the hell should we pay a doctor who busted his ass, paid out the ass, went through 8 years of college, took test after test, 2 years residency and spent ungodly sums of money? What about the nurse who spent long hours getting the education, dealing with crazy patients, cleaning up human fecal matter, and worked their ass off and paid out the ass for education? The fireman who had to learn the trade, bust his ass to pass the tests, and risk his life? The electrician? The carpenter? The small business man? The big business man? At the end of the day you want to talk about "fair" wages? Talk about teachers. Or anyone else I listed who is paid poorly.

    You know. I think I am coming up with a theory. We have lost industrial/manufacturing jobs here. We ship a lot of that stuff overseas. And now we wonder why we have a surplus of employees to ask, "Do you want to make that a super small for .25 less?" (Props if you get it). We need jobs here. End of story. If we want jobs, we gotta make em. And ditch digging is a job.

    I'm hoping for law school. I'm not afraid. I'm hopeful. Maybe the real world will kick my teeth down my throat, but I'm not gonna quit until I scratch and claw my way into a job that pays for a family. Oh. And I will make sure my kid gets and engineering degree. Lol.
    There are people who are not smart enough to go to college. Some of them were not smart enough to make it out of high school. Congress felt they should not be executed like a sack puppy or forced to live in an old refrigerator box in an alley somewhere. So they came up with a minimum wage. Roosevelt said that was the most important thing ever done since the New Deal. The odds of a young man living in a ghetto finding his way to a college and a decent job is very slim. The odds of a young woman living in a ghetto that had 4 babies by the time she was 21 and has no man living with her is equally not very promising. If these very poor people cannot get a reasonable wage for non-skilled labor; then taxpayers like me are going to have to pay for their welfare, section-8 home, food stamps, medical care, and WIC cheese and milk. I would rather see them get a wage they can survive on.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    I understand that you said "Wages are based on production". I further understand that you could not explain what to do about jobs that don't produce anything. I'd invite you to the conversation; but nothing you say seems to have one iota of intelligent thought given to it. When every job in America produces something, then perhaps your below statement will make sense:
    "Wages aren't based on need. They are based on production." -- SAWDUST
    I'm sorry but you don't understand the subject. Government isn't dependent on profit to stay afloat. All they require is tax revenue. They aren't constrained by budgets as we've seen lately. They print money.

    Business however has to depend on productivity for profit. All I can suggest for you at this point is never start a company. It will make you sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    I would rather see them get a wage they can survive on.
    I would rather see them not bring children into this world.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    I'm sorry but you don't understand the subject. Government isn't dependent on profit to stay afloat. All they require is tax revenue. They aren't constrained by budgets as we've seen lately. They print money.

    Business however has to depend on productivity for profit. All I can suggest for you at this point is never start a company. It will make you sad.
    Instead of coming up with your silly responses or personal attacks, why don't you explain why you think minimum wage should be based only on what a person produces and not based on services. You said "Wages aren't based on need. They are based on production." So what about people that don't produce anything? And don't tell me again about never starting a company. I own a company and I would bet I make more during a bad quarter than you have ever earned in a year.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I would rather see them not bring children into this world.
    You can make that happen, but premeditated murder is a felony punishable by either life in prison or by death depending what State you live in. The kids are in this world and the choice is to help these people stand on their own two feet or to carry them through life with entitlement programs. I prefer not to carry them through life with my taxes and to see a better solution than a third of a trillion dollars every year go to entitlements.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    You can make that happen, but premeditated murder is a felony punishable by either life in prison or by death depending what State you live in. The kids are in this world and the choice is to help these people stand on their own two feet or to carry them through life with entitlement programs. I prefer not to carry them through life with my taxes and to see a better solution than a third of a trillion dollars every year go to entitlements.
    How about they give them up for adoption if they can't afford them? Or abort them before they're born? Or don't have unprotected sex?

    Who, besides you, said anything about murder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Hell, most firefighters, outside of cities, are volunteers, and they provide a much more valuable service to society than any McDonald's employee. Maybe McDonald's workers should all be volunteers?
    Considering how bad McDonald's is for health, I wouldn't shed a tear if they went out of business. I am not sure what the burden is on taxpayers for morbid obesity; but I have to guess its in the tens of billions to hundreds of billions every year.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Considering how bad McDonald's is for health, I wouldn't shed a tear if they went out of business. I am not sure what the burden is on taxpayers for morbid obesity; but I have to guess its in the tens of billions to hundreds of billions every year.
    There is no evidence linking McDonald's to obesity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    How about they give them up for adoption if they can't afford them? Or abort them? Or don't have unprotected sex?

    Who, besides you, said anything about murder?
    I was making a joke. I am not suggesting you kill the babies of these welfare mothers. Abortion is illegal in almost every country on the planet and there are laws in USA pertaining to abortion as well. And without getting into a debate on abortion; the bottom line is that that there are a TON of welfare moms and moms without a husband in USA, especially among blacks. Either America comes up with an idea about how to get those people into the workplace, or we pay their way through life. Adoptions, abortions, and condoms are a future fantasy - the truth of the matter is that these people already exist here in America, already have these children, and are already on entitlement programs. This isn't a game of Risk; where we think something is going to happen in seven moves after we roll the dice seven times. These things are happening right now as we speak. $350+ billion in entitlement programs every year. Just today while you and I write these messages to each other, Uncle Sam will pay out right around $1 billion in entitlement checks.

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