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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    To achieve that minimum wage, how much value do you calculate the worker must produce for his employer? Wages aren't based on need. They are based on production.
    Only when profit sharing is involved. Otherwise your wage is static and doesn't give you one red cent more if you produce more.
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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Well then, what do you do about jobs that only demand $6 or $7p/hr? Pay more than double the value of the work being provided? You need to go beyond just raising the wage and think about the ripple effect. Or do you believe all that will happen in a vacuum?
    I believe Congress created the Fair Labor Standards Act for a reason. I am not sure why they handed the decision about picking a minimum wage to the individual States, but since Congress did that in 2010 many States have made it higher than the federal minimum; and some counties have made it higher than the State minimums. In Santa Fe it's $9.50 and in San Francisco it's $9.79 for example. In my example of what it costs to just get by in a minimum lifestyle (no cell phone, no car, no satellite TV, etc); a person would be barely existing and would need $1,900 a month. Congress says if you are a family of three and make less than $9.17 you are below the poverty level ($19,060 a year). All things considered, I feel a minimum wage of $15/hr would be reasonable.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    I believe Congress created the Fair Labor Standards Act for a reason. I am not sure why they handed the decision about picking a minimum wage to the individual States, but since Congress did that in 2010 many States have made it higher than the federal minimum; and some counties have made it higher than the State minimums. In Santa Fe it's $9.50 and in San Francisco it's $9.79 for example. In my example of what it costs to just get by in a minimum lifestyle (no cell phone, no car, no satellite TV, etc); a person would be barely existing and would need $1,900 a month. Congress says if you are a family of three and make less than $9.17 you are below the poverty level ($19,060 a year). All things considered, I feel a minimum wage of $15/hr would be reasonable.
    Here in Santa Fe we got it up over $10 now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Here in Santa Fe we got it up over $10 now.
    You see my point Rob, correct? Congress made a minimum wage out of an obligation to American Citizens to make sure they had at least a minimum salary. It had nothing to do with how many widgets a laborer can make in an hour or how much profit a corporation can make off the employee in an hour. And not only does Congress feel that way, States feel that way and counties feel that way. In your city of Santa Fe, the politicians felt that $10 was what was needed exist on. I personally feel $15 is about more realistic. Nobody can live on $7 an hour. And additionally, I would say the lower the minimum wage, the more crime will go up. As more people fall into deep poverty, they will have to resort to crime to feed themselves and their family.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    You see my point Rob, correct? Congress made a minimum wage out of an obligation to American Citizens to make sure they had at least a minimum salary. It had nothing to do with how many widgets a laborer can make in an hour or how much profit a corporation can make off the employee in an hour. And not only does Congress feel that way, States feel that way and counties feel that way. In your city of Santa Fe, the politicians felt that $10 was what was needed exist on. I personally feel $15 is about more realistic. Nobody can live on $7 an hour. And additionally, I would say the lower the minimum wage, the more crime will go up. As more people fall into deep poverty, they will have to resort to crime to feed themselves and their family.
    Yeah. If we get down to the basics of truth, employees all want to be rich and employers want free labor. Being that it is not a level bargaining field between employer and employee, the government minimum wage is/should be a promise that a fair day's work makes a fair days wage. Production has absolutely no bearing on wages in most jobs and zero in minimum wage jobs.
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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Came across this link.
    I can't verify that it is correct information, but it is definitely interesting.

    The Reality Of Who Actually Works For Minimum Wage Will Shock You

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    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Here in Santa Fe we got it up over $10 now.
    And go figure cost of living is higher there (higher than average).
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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    Came across this link.
    I can't verify that it is correct information, but it is definitely interesting.

    The Reality Of Who Actually Works For Minimum Wage Will Shock You
    Thanks Painter. Those numbers align with things I have read and are probably quite accurate. I had read that minimum wage earners almost exclusively had less than a bachelors degree. As USA becomes less of a manufacturing giant in this global economy, the importance of a good education will continue to increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Painter View Post
    Came across this link.
    I can't verify that it is correct information, but it is definitely interesting.

    The Reality Of Who Actually Works For Minimum Wage Will Shock You
    TBH... that site just made me want to punch their web designer in the throat. Too much chit popping up and interrupting the reading. Only one worse site for that in my experience is the "Examiner". Just try to read something on that site. It's a dare.
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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Thanks Painter. Those numbers align with things I have read and are probably quite accurate. I had read that minimum wage earners almost exclusively had less than a bachelors degree. As USA becomes less of a manufacturing giant in this global economy, the importance of a good education will continue to increase.
    Here's another one for you being that people try to argue that it's an entry level job for kids...

    The fast-food industry used to employ mostly younger people just trying to make some extra money as they went through school. Now, workers are older and depend on the work to feed families. Analysis by the Economic Policies Institute shows that the average age of minimum-wage workers is now 35, and that 88% are 20 and older.

    link...
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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