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    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    No you have never responded with anything other than blame Obama!
    Nice try.
    Untrue and dishonest, though.
    No surprise there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    Nice try.
    Untrue and dishonest, though.
    No surprise there.
    Yeah right! I asked you point blank about where the 12 trillion came before Obama took office and you have yet to reply to that. So no it is not dishonest at all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    Yeah right! I asked you point blank about where the 12 trillion came before Obama took office and you have yet to reply to that. So no it is not dishonest at all!
    Post your sources and state a clear hypothesis. Chanting slogans doesn't count as a "source".

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Oh please continue to strike and demand double the wages when you're barely worth what you earn now.

    The fats foid workers demanding double pay is indicative of a economy thats been run by a incompetent Liberal.

    Fast food jobs and part time work is all thats available.
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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    $15 an hour to flip burgers?

    LOL, prepare for the $10 Happy Meal.

    Economists, these folks ain't.
    Like most things, the math is simple. Most analyists say that a third of costs in fast food is labor. Double that means 2/3 will be devoted to labor, leaving 1/3 to cover plant and equipment, food costs, administration, and profit.

    That's gonna work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it surprises me with a math/science degree that you cannot locate a teaching position within your commute. in my berg, math/science teachers command a literal premium because the demand for those with such degrees is so intense
    I guess it depends on where you live. (Berg? I'm not familiar with this term.) When I tell employers that I have that degree, they seem quite indifferent; they want workers, not thinkers.

    and as to starting a small business, it is not for everyone. nor everyone with a degree. you are correct. but a degree indicates you have the ability to learn, and the knowledge needed to successfully operate a small business is quite fundamental. unfortunately, we teach our kids how to become someone else's employee rather than what they need to know to successfully launch an enterprise of their own
    True. I think American education is fraudulent in many ways. Partly, there is a lot of money in getting people to enroll in colleges, leading to a lot of the lying that leads people into thinking that a degree will magically get them a job. I admit that I got my degree for the wrong reasons, but I was young and had lots of convincing liars around me. But, I still say that "small business" is not the solution to all our problems; we can't all own businesses and have no employees.
    in my observation, there are three ways to wealth in America: luck into it by virtue of the womb or buying the right lottery ticket; or receive a professional degree; or build a business enterprise
    Those are all essentially luck now; Having a degree isn't helping the majority of people that graduated in the last couple of years. There prospectives are based on whether they know the right guy and are in the right place at the right time, not whether they know the right stuff or have the right degree. 98% of businesses fail, so that's also a pretty big risk. In modern America, wealth is almost entirely due to luck. Even in my own business idea, I completely acknowledge the fact that I could lose everything even though I worked for it.
    let me confess that i have a difficult time reading your laments. you appear to have the gifts of an education, health and youth and yet complain that your future is dim. it can be as bright as YOU allow it to be. do not be the person that holds you back
    I agree, I wasn't lamenting for myself. I'm going to be fine, but what about the other millions of Americans who won't? I'm worried about my country.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Like most things, the math is simple. Most analyists say that a third of costs in fast food is labor. Double that means 2/3 will be devoted to labor, leaving 1/3 to cover plant and equipment, food costs, administration, and profit.

    That's gonna work.
    Greetings, jimbo.

    Since food costs are in the measly 1/3 that's left, it makes you want to run out and buy a McHamburger, doesn't it? : There were jokes about McD's having to buy another cow when they reached the million burgers sold...wonder what they will do if this passes?

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    Out till later this afternoon.

    Be well.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    I sense that the whole $15 per hour thing is more of a Right Wing plot than a Left Wing goal.
    Here is why I say this...

    Even hardcore supporters of a minimum wage increase think this is silly and unrealistic.
    The result of this $15 dollar an hour fast food push has everyone from both sides laughing.
    Skilled labor such as construction and mechanics make $15 per hour.
    Do we pay the floor mopper and burger flipper the same pay as the high-rise metal roofer who risks his life each and every day to implement a skill that took 5 years to learn?
    This $15 fast food thing only serves to reinforce the Right Wing talking points and make them appear legit.


    Minimum wage is far too low and utterly ridiculous. It most definitely needs to be raised.
    But it has to be done with slow incremental increases.
    And it has to be done for all Americans, not just fast food.
    I'd like to see it eventually reach 15$ an hour. But not suddenly and not only for unskilled labor. Skilled labor also needs to rise.

    There is also an area disconnect.
    $15 is skilled labor in the South and is above poverty level, even if it is still not enough to afford health care.
    But in the East, North, or West, it might not be much at all.
    Last edited by Painter; 08-31-13 at 01:57 PM.

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    re: McJobs and the Minimum Wage[W:123,226]

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    So are you supporting entry level low/no skill jobs should be a living wage?

    If the no skill/first ever job pay gets increased, should the first line supervisor job also be inceased? If not, are you not devaluing the worth of the more experienced worker?
    I think anyone who works 80 hours a week should be able to feed themselves, yes. Guess I'm just a communist.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    As the available pool of unemployed labor shrinks and AD rises, wages go up. That's econ 101.
    This, I think, is the underlying flaw in libertarianism. They take Econ 101 and think they understand the world. That's like taking Physics 101 and thinking you're an engineer.
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