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    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Nope Obama phoned Cameron this week and now we are rushing to pass this before Obama goes on his trip.


    BBC News - Why Cameron buckled on Syria vote
    Ah.....I was looking at before this last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Usually the "UN" doesn't drop bombs, but that being besides the point, we hear Americans regularly point out our OBLIGATION to intervene when an ally is threatened or attacked. It is no different with Russia, Syria being their ally, of course they are going to support them. But this goes deeper than that. The Assad government predates Obama's birth certificate, like the syrian government or not, there are plenty of countries around the world that recognise it as legit, have embassies, exchange ambassadors, and otherwise do business with each other. So there are those that see supporting the established government as the right thing to do. Only a handful of western countries fancy supporting terrorists in their effort to overthrow the Assad government. I for one hope that Russia and China stand their ground and deny the west their wet dream of toppling another government they don't like.
    How do you respond to the use of chemical weapons? Just curious. I mean we can talk about "the evil western empire" all day, but the fact is that most Americans don't really give a poopie about Syria and wouldn't support a war. The most you will get out of us might be some Predator drones, missiles, and bombs. But I doubt it.

    I think though...that if someone is using Chemical weapons...that China or Russia should consider their stance as "allies." Of course neither is really concerned about how they look in terms of "human rights."
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    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    How do you respond to the use of chemical weapons? Just curious. I mean we can talk about "the evil western empire" all day, but the fact is that most Americans don't really give a poopie about Syria and wouldn't support a war. The most you will get out of us might be some Predator drones, missiles, and bombs. But I doubt it.

    I think though...that if someone is using Chemical weapons...that China or Russia should consider their stance as "allies." Of course neither is really concerned about how they look in terms of "human rights."
    Russia has presented satellite imagery to the UN that proves the Islamist extremists conducted the chemical attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Russia has presented satellite imagery to the UN that proves the Islamist extremists conducted the chemical attack.
    Can you please cite this? As of the most recent reports the United States and other are certain that it is the other way around. I wouldn't put it past the Russians to spin up some false intel like that to drum up anti-western sentiment. Never mind that they are allies with the Al Assad regime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Can you please cite this? As of the most recent reports the United States and other are certain that it is the other way around. I wouldn't put it past the Russians to spin up some false intel like that to drum up anti-western sentiment. Never mind that they are allies with the Al Assad regime.
    And the White house would never peddle propaganda of its own? Present the damn evidence to the security council and secure the necessary authorization or set down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Can you please cite this? As of the most recent reports the United States and other are certain that it is the other way around. I wouldn't put it past the Russians to spin up some false intel like that to drum up anti-western sentiment. Never mind that they are allies with the Al Assad regime.
    How many times does your government have to lie to you before you call bull ****, we've all seen this movie before!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    How many times does your government have to lie to you before you call bull ****, we've all seen this movie before!
    Wow a double meltdown. I take it the "satellite images" didnt pan out? Seriously dude. All I asked was for a link or citation to the Russian images. I mean do you expect me to take Russia for its word on the issue? Certainly they wouldn't have a stake in protecting the Syrian regime right?

    I don't trust my government or the intelligence. But I also don't trust the Russian government either. Why do you? Are you aware of the widespread corruption in that government? My simple claim from the start has been that I am opposed to the Syrian regime because they are not humanitarian, but I don't support the rebels either. I hope they all kill each other so the Russians can dig their pipeline and get bombed for their interference in the Middle East.

    But as far as trusting China or Russia over my country? Dream on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And the White house would never peddle propaganda of its own? Present the damn evidence to the security council and secure the necessary authorization or set down.
    Yea it isn't like Putin is a former KGB hard liner or anything. Yea. Much better to trust the Kremlin than my government.
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