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Hasan has been sentenced to Death [W:198,239]

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Don't bother. These guys are happy to do what bin Laden couldn't finish. He played the tune and they are only too happy to dance. Let the war against Islam commence.

Thing is we could never get all of the terrorists. There are new ones born every day.
 
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The death penalty provides justification for the rationalization of murder.

No, it removes the burden from society to keep human garbage from being fed, clothed and housed forever. If you willingly take a life then you should be removed from society permanently and with as little cost as possible, just like a moldy loaf of bread is discarded. The problem with the DP now is that is is not used often enough to be effective - less that 2% of those convicted of 1st degree murder get the DP. So even if caught and convicted you now have a 98% chance of not being executed for the ultimate crime of 1st degree murder.
 
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Eh, whatever way some want to spin it, Hasans actions were an act of Terrorism. There is absolutely no dispute about Hasan’s motives or affiliations. He was acting to aid the Taliban after admitting he corresponded with an Al Qaeda leader (Anwar Al-Awlaki).
 
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I've talked about the problems I see with the Death Penalty in another thread, but as long as its going to be around I'm good that its going to someone who deserves it.
 
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Thing is we could never get all of the terrorists. There are new ones born every day.
Battles for God are eternal, that's what they believe. For Americans who can't see beyond the profits for next quarter, there's not a chance in hell.
 
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Battles for God are eternal, that's what they believe. For Americans who can't see beyond the profits for next quarter, there's not a chance in hell.

This "war on terrorism" is never going to end if we keep involving ourselves in their affairs.
 
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I've talked about the problems I see with the Death Penalty in another thread, but as long as its going to be around I'm good that its going to someone who deserves it.

Or we could have kept him alive to live with what he's done and with his resultant paralysis. That is certainly not a fun way to live your life. We are actually doing him a favor by putting him out of his misery and at the same time creating a new martyr for the terrorists.
 
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This "war on terrorism" is never going to end if we keep involving ourselves in their affairs.
When the oil runs out, we will. That's all we care about anyway.
 
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So if someone orders you to commit an act of terror, it's not terrorism? That doesn't make any sense to me.

My criteria for terrorism doesn't include attacking military targets. Military targets are legitimate targets of war, if there could be said to be such a thing. Yes, he shot civilians, but we bomb civilians sometimes. Hell, we killed tons of them in WW2. It was called "collateral damage." So these particular assholes aren't a state actor. I don't see that as being critical either: they're the enemy. They don't recognize our legitimacy any more than we recognize theirs.

I just can't imagine going through life being that indifferent about something like this. What's it like?
 
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Or we could have kept him alive to live with what he's done and with his resultant paralysis. That is certainly not a fun way to live your life.

I'm not really interested in torturing him. I just don't think he deserves to live.

We are actually doing him a favor by putting him out of his misery and at the same time creating a new martyr for the terrorists.

A lot of things create new terrorists. I don't think we should refrain from doing something right based on how terrorists might perceive it.
 
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It really doesn't matter because the Qu'ran says the person has to willingly eat pork. Just coming into contact with it doesn't mean a thing. Further, most of the people who want to do these things don't take the Qu'ran seriously, they don't believe anything in it, why would they care if they did things that violated the Qu'ran when the Qu'ran is asinine to begin with in their opinion?

Some of those Muslims have a superstitious fear about pork.
 
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When the oil runs out, we will. That's all we care about anyway.

Our interest in oil is not a trivial or minor thing. I don't know about you, but I drive a car to work so that I can buy things in the stores that line there shelves with products trucked in and that is just the very tip of the iceburg. Our economy, our very way of living is absolutely dependent on energy. I'd say we have some significant interest in securing what we need.
 
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I'm not really interested in torturing him. I just don't think he deserves to live.



A lot of things create new terrorists. I don't think we should refrain from doing something right based on how terrorists might perceive it.

It's completely unnecessary to put him to death.
 
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Our interest in oil is not a trivial or minor thing. I don't know about you, but I drive a car to work so that I can buy things in the stores that line there shelves with products trucked in and that is just the very tip of the iceburg. Our economy, our very way of living is absolutely dependent on energy. I'd say we have some significant interest in securing what we need.

Yes, but we have to find a way to separate ourselves from that part of the world. It is just too unstable and volatile. It's not a very smart business move on our part to keep wheeling and dealing these people.
 
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It's completely unnecessary to put him to death.

In a way I agree that its unnecessary, but I also believe that he deserves it. If we're going to have the death penalty people like Hasan are the ones it should go to.
 
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Some of those Muslims have a superstitious fear about pork.

Then they're idiots. Some Christians think demons invade their bodies and make them do bad things. There are stupid, superstitious people all over.
 
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My rational side says the Daughter of on of the victims had it right, we should forget him.
Talking about him draws attention to him.
My ornery side, thinks a sex change, lobotomy, and slip her into Iran.
 
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My rational side says the Daughter of on of the victims had it right, we should forget him.
Talking about him draws attention to him.
My ornery side, thinks a sex change, lobotomy, and slip her into Iran.

I imagine she's sick and freaking tired of hearing about his loser ass. I'm on board.
 
Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

Our interest in oil is not a trivial or minor thing. I don't know about you, but I drive a car to work so that I can buy things in the stores that line there shelves with products trucked in and that is just the very tip of the iceburg. Our economy, our very way of living is absolutely dependent on energy. I'd say we have some significant interest in securing what we need.

We bailed Kuwait out of their mess years ago, as we have, as of now, received no benefits from that.

We still cajole and beg OPEC not to screw us on oil, and US speculators continue to push up prices.

Emerging markets on Asia constantly add new demand on world oil supplies daily.

Despite our bitching, US consumers show no interest in conserving domestic energy consumption, and think no further than the current day's needs.

We have met the enemy, and he is is.
 
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Thing is we could never get all of the terrorists. There are new ones born every day.

There are people born every day who love their freedom as well.
 
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This "war on terrorism" is never going to end if we keep involving ourselves in their affairs.

Well they are certainly involving themselves in the affairs of the democracies. Would you like to see an end to Muslim immigration?
 
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Or we could have kept him alive to live with what he's done and with his resultant paralysis. That is certainly not a fun way to live your life. We are actually doing him a favor by putting him out of his misery and at the same time creating a new martyr for the terrorists.

Maybe the thing to do is create greater martyrdom until the desire to be a martyr begins to fade. They're probably running low on virgins already.
 
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When the oil runs out, we will. That's all we care about anyway.

And how's that working out? Have oil prices dropped? Are wells in the ME secure in American hands?
 
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Then they're idiots. Some Christians think demons invade their bodies and make them do bad things. There are stupid, superstitious people all over.

Including atheists and agnostics too, I suppose.
 
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And how's that working out? Have oil prices dropped? Are wells in the ME secure in American hands?
Ask the oil companies? It's working out fine for them and that was the whole point of being there.
 
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