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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    He was shooting soldiers, and also shot civilians. When American troops do that, we call it "collateral damage."
    Read carefully:

    He targeted civilians.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    back in the good old days

    Breaking rocks in the hot sun

    Some people would call THAT cruel and unusual punishment even though construction workers do this kind of stuff every day. God forbid we make them work for their meals. That's just so mean.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wow, you really are enamored with this traitor who engaged in domestic terrorism
    You hate America. Why?

    Oh, sorry, you were making more baseless personal attacks? Please continue. I don't want to derail.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I'm trying to figure out why it's not terrorism for us to shoot their guys and is terrorism when they shoot back, or when somebody shoots back on their behalf.
    Military acting on behalf of orders is military (classified in all sorts of ways).

    Terrorism is not military acting on behalf of orders.

    Terrorism is what we label actions against us according to certain criteria.

    They - therefor - are responsible for deciding what something is to them. That's not our call. We can't tell them what things are when they happen to their country. We might label it for ourselves, for our media and populous, but they're not necessarily going to agree with us and see it the same way we do.

    It's subjective depending on who is looking at it, and how they see it.
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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    I hope they don't delay this too long.

    This is one of those times when the prohibition on "cruel and unusual punishment," comes back to bite you in the ass. This guy should die very painfully and very slowly.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Military acting on behalf of orders is military (classified in all sorts of ways).

    Terrorism is not military acting on behalf of orders.

    Terrorism is what we label actions against us according to certain criteria.

    They - therefor - are responsible for deciding what something is to them. That's not our call. We can't tell them what things are when they happen to their country. We might label it for ourselves, for our media and populous, but they're not necessarily going to agree with us and see it the same way we do.

    It's subjective depending on who is looking at it, and how they see it.
    So if someone orders you to commit an act of terror, it's not terrorism? That doesn't make any sense to me.

    My criteria for terrorism doesn't include attacking military targets. Military targets are legitimate targets of war, if there could be said to be such a thing. Yes, he shot civilians, but we bomb civilians sometimes. Hell, we killed tons of them in WW2. It was called "collateral damage." So these particular assholes aren't a state actor. I don't see that as being critical either: they're the enemy. They don't recognize our legitimacy any more than we recognize theirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    He WANTED the death penalty.


    I say put him in a 4 x 4 concrete box, and let him rot. If he gets hungry, feed him pork.
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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So if someone orders you to commit an act of terror, it's not terrorism? That doesn't make any sense to me.

    My criteria for terrorism doesn't include attacking military targets. Military targets are legitimate targets of war, if there could be said to be such a thing. Yes, he shot civilians, but we bomb civilians sometimes. Hell, we killed tons of them in WW2. It was called "collateral damage." So these particular assholes aren't a state actor. I don't see that as being critical either: they're the enemy. They don't recognize our legitimacy any more than we recognize theirs.
    Good God, this wasn't an act of WAR. He was working for OUR military! This was definitely an act of terrorism IMO.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet Elvis View Post
    He WANTED the death penalty.


    I say put him in a 4 x 4 concrete box, and let him rot. If he gets hungry, feed him pork.
    Muslims are allowed to eat pork if any hardship might be caused by not doing so. In fact, they can eat pork if they think you might be offended by their refusal to eat it.


    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Good God, this wasn't an act of WAR. He was working for OUR military! This was definitely an act of terrorism IMO.
    That makes him a traitor, not a terrorist. The troops being unarmed makes it a war crime.

    edit: Oops, there I go again. Showing my love for someone by calling them a traitor and a war criminal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Muslims are allowed to eat pork if any hardship might be caused by not doing so. In fact, they can eat pork if they think you might be offended by their refusal to eat it.




    That makes him a traitor, not a terrorist. The troops being unarmed makes it a war crime.

    edit: Oops, there I go again. Showing my love for someone by calling them a traitor and a war criminal.
    Well I disagree. I think it was an act of terrorism. He did it to demonstrate his dedication to his terrorist brothers.

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