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    re: Hasan has been sentenced to Death [W:198,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Christians tend to follow the New Testament.
    Christians tend to believe both the old and new testaments were written by god and are the absolute truth. Even global floods, raising folks from the dead, walking on water, etc. 100% true and no fabrications. And while we are discussing Christ; the guy was a Jew and taught in Jewish Temples. So he would have believed the old testament was the absolute truth too.

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    re: Hasan has been sentenced to Death [W:198,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Christians tend to believe both the old and new testaments were written by god and are the absolute truth. Even global floods, raising folks from the dead, walking on water, etc. 100% true and no fabrications. And while we are discussing Christ; the guy was a Jew and taught in Jewish Temples. So he would have believed the old testament was the absolute truth too.
    Honestly, I don't know any Christians who think the Bible was written by God. The writings were INSPIRED by God. I believe most of the MEN who wrote passages in the Bible were credited, such as Matthew, Paul, Peter, other apostles.

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    re: Hasan has been sentenced to Death [W:198,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Christians tend to believe both the old and new testaments were written by god and are the absolute truth. Even global floods, raising folks from the dead, walking on water, etc. 100% true and no fabrications. And while we are discussing Christ; the guy was a Jew and taught in Jewish Temples. So he would have believed the old testament was the absolute truth too.
    How do you know what Christians believe? Do you attend Church regularly? Live your life without God and few will really care very much. But your proselytizing one way is just as tiresome as the other.

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    re: Hasan has been sentenced to Death [W:198,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Honestly, I don't know any Christians who think the Bible was written by God. The writings were INSPIRED by God. I believe most of the MEN who wrote passages in the Bible were credited, such as Matthew, Paul, Peter, other apostles.
    He doesn't know.

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    re: Hasan has been sentenced to Death [W:198,239]

    But back to Major Hasan!

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    re: Hasan has been sentenced to Death [W:198,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How do you know what Christians believe? Do you attend Church regularly? Live your life without God and few will really care very much. But your proselytizing one way is just as tiresome as the other.
    Did you really just ask that? ROFLMAO. Attending church is now necessary to know what Christians believe? Really? So it's a secret society and only Christians are allowed to read the bible? Really?! BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Just when you think you have heard it all........ Holy cow.

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    re: Hasan has been sentenced to Death [W:198,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Honestly, I don't know any Christians who think the Bible was written by God. The writings were INSPIRED by God. I believe most of the MEN who wrote passages in the Bible were credited, such as Matthew, Paul, Peter, other apostles.
    1. The old testament was supposedly written by the Spirit of God, through the hand of Moses. EVERY Jew and Christian either knows or SHOULD know this. You are the first person I have ever seen post that does not know what Biblical infallibility and Biblical inerrancy mean.
    2. The first four books of the new testament was supposedly written by the Apostles who knew Jesus. Of course historical research has proven that only one of the four authors of the major gospels ever met Christ, that Saul of Tarsus re-wrote those major gospels (allegedly after the spirit of Christ told him to), and historical research has also shown that not all of the four authors were even men (as you asserted, and unless instead of men you mean human beings). And don't even get me going on all the conflicting stories in biblical apocrypha or how the picking and choosing went on to keep the discrepancies to a minimum during the first counsel (in Nicaea). And don't kid yourself into thinking only the Christians had Ecumenical counsels to twist everything; that happened with Rabbi counsels for the old testament too.

    If you are going to talk about religion, please at least know about the religion. I grew up spending my days in Hebrew School, Talmud School ever summer, and my undergrad and graduate schools were Jesuit universities; so I am quite comfortable talking about abrahamic religions. But if you are going to just say silly things that are not true then we really cannot converse and I am just going to laugh off your posts and move on (no disrespect intended).
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    re: Hasan has been sentenced to Death [W:198,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    1. The old testament was supposedly written by the Spirit of God, through the hand of Moses. EVERY Jew and Christian either knows or SHOULD know this. You are the first person I have ever seen post that does not know what Biblical infallibility and Biblical inerrancy mean.
    2. The first four books of the new testament was supposedly written by the Apostles who knew Jesus. Of course historical research has proven that only one of the four authors of the major gospels ever met Christ, that Saul of Tarsus re-wrote those major gospels (allegedly after the spirit of Christ told him to), and historical research has also shown that not all of the four authors were even men (as you asserted, and unless instead of men you mean human beings). And don't even get me going on all the conflicting stories in biblical apocrypha or how the picking and choosing went on to keep the discrepancies to a minimum during the first counsel (in Nicaea). And don't kid yourself into thinking only the Christians had Ecumenical counsels to twist everything; that happened with Rabbi counsels for the old testament too.

    If you are going to talk about religion, please at least know about the religion. I grew up spending my days in Hebrew School, Talmud School ever summer, and my undergrad and graduate schools were Jesuit universities; so I am quite comfortable talking about abrahamic religions. But if you are going to just say silly things that are not true then we really cannot converse and I am just going to laugh off your posts and move on (no disrespect intended).
    I've never met anyone who thought the Bible was written by God, which is exactly what you stated.

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    re: Hasan has been sentenced to Death [W:198,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I've never met anyone who thought the Bible was written by God, which is exactly what you stated.
    You are wrong. 100% wrong. Genesis is clear that god was made up of the father and a holy spirit. Don't you remember the story in genesis about the spirit of god moving over the waters? The spirit filled Moses and wrote the first five books through the hand of Moses, and then Moses put that in the ark. There may be a lot of Christians that are ignorant to their religion; but we Jews learn this stuff EVERY DAY in Hebrew School. 5 days a week, 3 hours a day; and every summer we spend 10 hours a day 5 days a week at Hebrew camp further being taught Tanach and Talmud. With New Testament, Saul of Tarsus said the third part of god (the son) came to him after death and told him what to change about the major gospels. So he made the changes and justified the changes in Acts. Just because I became a Deist as an adult doesn't mean I don't know all this stuff by heart. If you don't know about the holy spirit and why being filled with the holy spirit (human possession by god) is mandatory for biblical infallibility; then you don't know the first thing about Christianity.

    And I see you quietly refuse to justify your assertion of "How do you know what Christians believe? Do you attend Church regularly? ", which without trying to be insulting - I have to say is one of the most retarded things anyone has EVER said to me on the subject of religion. You might want to start by trying to explain that insulting comment; since I suspect I have forgotten more about Christianity on a bad day than you have EVER known about Christianity in your entire life.

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    re: Hasan has been sentenced to Death [W:198,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    You are wrong. 100% wrong. Genesis is clear that god was made up of the father and a holy spirit. Don't you remember the story in genesis about the spirit of god moving over the waters? The spirit filled Moses and wrote the first five books through the hand of Moses, and then Moses put that in the ark. There may be a lot of Christians that are ignorant to their religion; but we Jews learn this stuff EVERY DAY in Hebrew School. 5 days a week, 3 hours a day; and every summer we spend 10 hours a day 5 days a week at Hebrew camp further being taught Tanach and Talmud. With New Testament, Saul of Tarsus said the third part of god (the son) came to him after death and told him what to change about the major gospels. So he made the changes and justified the changes in Acts. Just because I became a Deist as an adult doesn't mean I don't know all this stuff by heart. If you don't know about the holy spirit and why being filled with the holy spirit (human possession by god) is mandatory for biblical infallibility; then you don't know the first thing about Christianity.
    Look, if you want to believe that God wrote the Bible go right ahead. I don't think that's a very popular concept, at least not where I live. Most of the people I know believe that men wrote the Bible, as do I.

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