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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Who cares what an idiotic book of bronze age mythology says? This is a nation with a secular government, we don't pay attention to religious stupidity.
    "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." Psalm 14:1

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    re: Hasan has been sentenced to Death [W:198,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Why in the hell would we pay him?
    It'd be cheaper than imprisoning him for the rest of his life.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Then they're idiots. Some Christians think demons invade their bodies and make them do bad things. There are stupid, superstitious people all over.
    You're right about that.
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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Charlie Manson said it was great. Accommodation, food, medical, and all the sex you wanted.
    Exactly. For some it is just another - and easier - way of life.

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    re: Hasan has been sentenced to Death [W:198,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    A deity having lost interest is a reason for ignoring His morals?
    Who's morals? A fictitious skydaddy that someone made up 3,500 years ago? Just because I know the bible is immoral and silly doesn't mean I haven't read it or wasn't raised on it, you know. Have you ever offered up your wife and daughter to be raped, then cut them into 12 pieces after the raping was done? Bible says that's the right thing to do.

    20 “You are welcome at my house,” the old man said. “Let me supply whatever you need. Only don’t spend the night in the square.” 21 So he took him into his house and fed his donkeys. After they had washed their feet, they had something to eat and drink.
    22 While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, “Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with him.”
    23 The owner of the house went outside and said to them, “No, my friends, don’t be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don’t do this disgraceful thing. 24 Look, here is my virgin daughter, and his concubine. I will bring them out to you now, and you can use them and do to them whatever you wish. But to this man, don’t do such a disgraceful thing.”
    25 But the men would not listen to him. So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. 26 At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight.
    27 When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. 28 He said to her, “Get up; let’s go.” But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.
    29 When he reached home, he took a knife and cut up his concubine, limb by limb, into twelve parts and sent them into all the areas of Israel. 30 Everyone who saw it said, “Such a thing has never been seen or done, not since the day the Israelites came up out of Egypt. Think about it! Consider it! Tell us what to do!”

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." Psalm 14:1
    Using the bible to personally attack Cephus for having a different opinion is against the terms of service.

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    re: Hasan has been sentenced to Death [W:198,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Who's morals?
    The deity's morals, of course - I did capitalize His.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Does Hasan deserve death? Yeah. Does Hasan want death? Yeah. Should Hasan be put to death?

    I'm not going to shed any tears for this dog, one way or the other. My problem is that he wants to die, wants to be a martyr and when we execute him, he will be a martyr to his people whether we like it or not. The guy is paralyzed, in pain, cooped up in prison where medical care is an after-thought to some alcoholic medic who can't get a job anywhere else because of gross ineptitude. Thirty or 40 years of suffering seems to me to be about right for this particular individual. Decades of pain and misery ahead of him, and no martyrdom. Win-win.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    How do you MAKE someone with a life sentence without parole do anything? Beat him? Starve him?

    It is a common theme that the same people who sob over the death penalty even for someone known for absolute certain did what he did - then turn around and advocate torturous confinement as their alternative.

    He cannot be forced to work. Solitary confinement is one of the worst forms of torture, and under the Constitution he can not be beaten or starved. While he can be rewarded for working, he cannot be punished for not working. And all along the way, year after year, decade after decades, good people are having to go to work to pay for him, his housing, endless legal fees of his lawyers, his food, his medical care - everything - as he gets to be in prison a martyr-hero to himself and his "God."

    It'd make more sense - and be cheaper - to just give him $500,000, a ticket out of the country and have a banishment order. As long as he is in prison, he is still among us, because some of us will be in prison with him, as will guards and others. And, like Hitler, he can write his manifesto plus preach his message to others there.
    He can be forced to work, just like they used to with chain gangs. How do you think they make lifers do anything? Jeez!

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Using the bible to personally attack Cephus for having a different opinion is against the terms of service.
    I did not personally attack anyone. I quoted Scripture. If Cephus feels personally attacked he needs to take it up with God.

    I will not, under any circumstances, be discouraged from quoting Scripture any time I want to. If the administration doesn't like it that is just too bad.

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