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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Given your comment of "lawful society," then I conclude you fully support brutality in prison.

    You ignore, completely, the substance of my message. Prison is just another society to live in. He is not silenced nor defeated.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Who cares what an idiotic book of bronze age mythology says?
    About a billion people, including the majority of Americans.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    no one is born a terrorist.

    people can only be motivated into committing acts of terror.
    Yes, so perhaps it is possible to remove their motivation.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Islam is the worlds second largest religion after Christianity. are you implying that every practitioner of Islam is a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer?
    I don't 'imply' anything. Please just read the post and accept it way it is.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, actually, that's not really the case. We know from prison intake statistics that more criminals claim to be religious than their percentage in the outside world, that means the religious commit crimes at a rate greater than their statistical presence in non-criminal society. Atheists, on the other hand, are much less represented among the prison population than their outside numbers. Keep in mind that these are entry statistics, these are the beliefs claimed by convicted criminals before they've even stepped foot in prison.
    Interesting. I'd like to see that study.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Given your comment of "lawful society," then I conclude you fully support brutality in prison.

    You ignore, completely, the substance of my message. Prison is just another society to live in. He is not silenced nor defeated.
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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Who cares what an idiotic book of bronze age mythology says? This is a nation with a secular government, we don't pay attention to religious stupidity.
    Many are giving Muslims a lot of attention.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    About a billion people, including the majority of Americans.
    And that number is falling continuously. Okay, better question, who *SHOULD* believe in an idiotic book of bronze age mythology?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Hasan was been sentenced to Death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Many are giving Muslims a lot of attention.
    Unfortunately. Lots of people are terrified of what the Muslims might do.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    re: Hasan has been sentenced to Death [W:198,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    How do you MAKE someone with a life sentence without parole do anything? Beat him? Starve him?

    It is a common theme that the same people who sob over the death penalty even for someone known for absolute certain did what he did - then turn around and advocate torturous confinement as their alternative.

    He cannot be forced to work. Solitary confinement is one of the worst forms of torture, and under the Constitution he can not be beaten or starved. While he can be rewarded for working, he cannot be punished for not working. And all along the way, year after year, decade after decades, good people are having to go to work to pay for him, his housing, endless legal fees of his lawyers, his food, his medical care - everything - as he gets to be in prison a martyr-hero to himself and his "God."

    It'd make more sense - and be cheaper - to just give him $500,000, a ticket out of the country and have a banishment order. As long as he is in prison, he is still among us, because some of us will be in prison with him, as will guards and others. And, like Hitler, he can write his manifesto plus preach his message to others there.
    Why in the hell would we pay him?

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