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Crowds gather for March on Washington 50th anniversary[W:101]

Re: Crowds gather for March on Washington 50th anniversary

What do you suppose the Democrats were saying and doing during that period? I gave you a link to a number of things Lincoln said.

What Democrats were saying is irrelevant to Lincoln's reasons for suggesting colonization.

You should learn to be more courteous, by the way.

If you or anyone makes a hack statement that I see, I'll call them on it. You're right about Lincoln suggesting colonization. Your comments as to why were pure hyperpartisanship.
 
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Nothing in that article contradicts the claim that the Republicans I mentioned were not invited to speak at yesterday's event. All it is is a collection of quotes from black, otherwise unremarkable, Republicans complaining that they were not invited.
Not involved in the Civil Rights Movement?? If anyone typifies the success of the 'Civil Rights Movement' it's Clarence Thomas. The Civil Rights Movement is now but an arm of the Democratic Party. The only thing that's missing is success.
While Thomas is an American success story he is not a Justice in the mold of Earl Warren or Thurgood Marshall that is identifiable with the Civil Rights movement. Or do you believe he should have spoken simply because he is black?
He apologized for being a member of the KKK leader, recruiter, and trying to enlarge the Mnemosyne across the USA. Would any Republican caught with such a past be acceptable to the Democrats? Look what happened to Trent Lott for one remark, much less a career in the KKK.
Would this hypothetical Republican have shown any remorse and changed their views? 54 years passed between Trent Lott voting for Strom Thurmond and his comments that the United States would be better off had he won in 1948, and yet his political views hardly changed. The same cannot be said for Robert Byrd.
That would be Democrat 'historians'. But George Wallace was running under the banner of the Democrats, not the 'Dixiecrats' and those who were against Civil Rights called themselves Democrats.
Most historians recognize the difference between northern Democrats and southern Democrats during the Civil Rights era. From my experience the only ones who do not are nothing more than partisan hacks.

Much like how most Tea Partiers are Republicans that does not mean they get along with what they consider establishment Republicans. Such an adversarial relationship existed between Dixiecrats and northern Democrats. Given the nature of the American political system it was more expedient for Wallace to be a member of one the two major parties than form his own party.
Right. A racist Democrat and he won two primaries.
He won two primaries after he was shot. Those victories were more a sign that voters pitied him than any proof that he was a viable option to win the nomination in 1972.
Another indefensible and divisive slur against American people who, unlike the Democrats, are not involved in racial politics and never have been.
This has nothing to do with what I posted. I merely am saying the rhetoric of George Wallace matched that of the Tea Party. Do you deny the Tea Party rails against the federal government, left-wing liberals, the liberal press, and the Supreme Court?
He was a Republican, not a Democrat.
MLK Jr.'s father was a Republican when it was common for blacks to vote for the Republicans, but the same cannot be said of MLK, Jr. Although he never said which party he voted for his views were more aligned with the Democratic Party. Just for fun, here is an excerpt from a Nobel lecture:
Another indication that progress is being made was found in the recent presidential election in the United States. The American people revealed great maturity by overwhelmingly rejecting a presidential candidate who had become identified with extremism, racism, and retrogression. The voters of our nation rendered a telling blow to the radical right. They defeated those elements in our society which seek to pit white against Negro and lead the nation down a dangerous Fascist path.
He was such a great Republican that he openly applauded the loss of conservative Republican Barry Goldwater.:lol: Keep on living in that bubble!
 
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Whats a BM?



It's not a what, but a who....and "are" you on welfare? If not, why do you think that everybody else "is"?
 
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What Democrats were saying is irrelevant to Lincoln's reasons for suggesting colonization.

What?? The Democrats were the slave owners, the ones fighting for slavery. Of course whatever Lincoln said had to take that into account. Black people were just not safe during that period, and for over 100 years after.

If you or anyone makes a hack statement that I see, I'll call them on it. You're right about Lincoln suggesting colonization. Your comments as to why were pure hyperpartisanship.

So you think I should support those who supported slavery in order not to be 'hyperbipartisan'? I don't think so.
 
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No Republicans were invited, including the previous President, so the idea that they want inclusiveness is clearly false. In fact it is a lie.

The Democrats have taken over civil rights as their own despite them being against any Black rights for almost 200 years, and they will always ignore the fact that it was a Democrat who murdered Dr. King.




Everyone in Congress was invited.. They chose not to attend...
 
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Of course they do. But why would anyone vote for them knowing what they have done, and are doing, to the country? Don't you believe the electorate should be better informed?



Especially the conservative electorate....
 
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Don't understand why its all entertainers giving speeches. Are these honestly the "best" black leaders we can offer today? Ironic how the only black Senator wasn't invited.

Who do you think the idiots in society listen to???
 
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If Dr. King were alive today, he'd be dismissed as an Uncle Tom.




That is bulls##t any way you look at it...
 
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That's a ridiculous partisan hack statement. Lincoln said it because he felt that since the blacks were taken from their homes in Africa, they should be returned to Africa as that was where they were from. This was about re-colonization of blacks to where they had been. It had NOTHING to do with partisanship.

Then why did he want to create a new place for them instead of having them return to their respective places of origin if that be the case? You do know that most of them were born in the US by then?
 
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MLK's message was good but he was a hypocrite - I suppose no more than most politicians tho...

The problem is that few people actually practice what he preached - he didn't even practice what he preached - yet people celebrate his words...

I don't believe MLK was a racist, nor do I believe his intent was bad, however, he certainly did preach conservative values but like many conservatives didn't practice those values - yet was a man who spoke highly of judging on character.... I suppose only a few in history were ever able to truly talk the talk and walk the walk....
 
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That is bulls##t any way you look at it...

No it's not.....

You ever read the hate black conservatives get???

Stacy Dash is a good example..... Hell, how about Tim Scott not invited to speak at the MLK rally???

Like it or not MLK was a conservative - democrats at that time hated blacks.... Black politicans learned to use blacks later because they were growing in size and represented a large voting block.

As LBJ said in 1964: "I'll have every nigger voting democrat for the next 100 years."

Pre-1970 half of blacks voted republican and MLK was certainly a conservative......
 
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That is bulls##t any way you look at it...

No it's not. The only way that Martin Luther King wouldn't be labeled an Uncle Tom, is if he turned out to be a big-a-fraud as the rest of civil rights industry CEO's.
 
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It's not a what, but a who....and "are" you on welfare?

No...never have been.

If not, why do you think that everybody else "is"?

I enver said that everybody is.
 
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Nothing in that article contradicts the claim that the Republicans I mentioned were not invited to speak at yesterday's event. All it is is a collection of quotes from black, otherwise unremarkable, Republicans complaining that they were not invited.

No one there was remarkable, except Governor Martin O'Malley of Maryland. He gave a great Democratic speech.
While Thomas is an American success story he is not a Justice in the mold of Earl Warren or Thurgood Marshall that is identifiable with the Civil Rights movement. Or do you believe he should have spoken simply because he is black?
I think he an American success story and too often the successes are ignored and the problems highlighted. Thomas is a great rags to riches story.

Would this hypothetical Republican have shown any remorse and changed their views? 54 years passed between Trent Lott voting for Strom Thurmond and his comments that the United States would be better off had he won in 1948, and yet his political views hardly changed. The same cannot be said for Robert Byrd.
Most historians recognize the difference between northern Democrats and southern Democrats during the Civil Rights era. From my experience the only ones who do not are nothing more than partisan hacks.

"Partisan hacks", huh? Was there a meeting among the partisan hack leftists recently to discuss a new buzzword?

Much like how most Tea Partiers are Republicans that does not mean they get along with what they consider establishment Republicans.
No they don't always agree but they are not racist by any measure.

Such an adversarial relationship existed between Dixiecrats and northern Democrats.

Not as much as there should have been.

Given the nature of the American political system it was more expedient for Wallace to be a member of one the two major parties than form his own party.
He was a Democrat already.He didn't have to change parties.
He won two primaries after he was shot. Those victories were more a sign that voters pitied him than any proof that he was a viable option to win the nomination in 1972.
MLK's Democrat assassin thought he would win. He certainly got a lot of Dem votes.
This has nothing to do with what I posted. I merely am saying the rhetoric of George Wallace matched that of the Tea Party.

And I'm saying that's crap.

Do you deny the Tea Party rails against the federal government, left-wing liberals, the liberal press, and the Supreme Court?
Rails? Yes I do. But a lot of people of every political stripe do that.
MLK Jr.'s father was a Republican when it was common for blacks to vote for the Republicans, but the same cannot be said of MLK, Jr. Although he never said which party he voted for his views were more aligned with the Democratic Party. Just for fun, here is an excerpt from a Nobel lecture:He was such a great Republican that he openly applauded the loss of conservative Republican Barry Goldwater.:lol: Keep on living in that bubble!

Dr. MLK delivered the Black vote to the Democrats in order to get a reluctant Kennedy to pass the Civil Rights Bill. Of course Goldwater was none of those things King said of him and it stains his memory.

Johnson also developed the Great Society and Black dependence on the government was born..“I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.”
- Lyndon B. Johnson. Of course, at the same time, LBJ was also concerned about the influence he had created. "These negros, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they’ve never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness".
 
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Sorry, but the Republicans of the 1960s bear no resemblance to the Republican conservatives of today...

Where do you find the main difference? The Democrats remain pretty much the same.
 
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Really? Those words didn't appear in his post?

Feel free to show us where Kersley said that, "blacks are feral savages". I await with bated breath, sir...I'm we all do.
 
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Black Manta.

She has...issues.



Well, I know you'd never stoop to such racially charged name calling.



Poking your nose in again I see...:roll:
 
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MLK's message was good but he was a hypocrite - I suppose no more than most politicians tho...

The problem is that few people actually practice what he preached - he didn't even practice what he preached - yet people celebrate his words...

I don't believe MLK was a racist, nor do I believe his intent was bad, however, he certainly did preach conservative values but like many conservatives didn't practice those values - yet was a man who spoke highly of judging on character.... I suppose only a few in history were ever able to truly talk the talk and walk the walk....



He preached nonviolence, he practiced nonviolence, he participated in nonviolent demonstrations. Where did he "not" walk the walk?
 
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He preached nonviolence, he practiced nonviolence, he participated in nonviolent demonstrations. Where did he "not" walk the walk?

ummmm...marital fidelity, stealing other peoples work and claiming it as his and associating with known communists...but other than that he was good. Definitely a smooth talker.
 
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How impressed would MLK be with the Libbos using tge civil rights movement as a political baseball bat, to do nothing other than beat up their political opponents?

Actually, that is not true at all. Many Republicans (A very long list that included both Boehner and Cantor) were contacted and invited, and time was even offered for some of them to speak. Each and every Republican on that list turned down the invitations that were sent to them.

People are not judged by the spin they give on any issue. They are judged by what they actually do. We, the American people, can judge for ourselves, without people making stuff up for us. We have eyes and ears, and a brain to boot. If the Republican Party truly wants some of the black vote, they are surely going about getting it the wrong way. It's insane.
 
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No it's not.....

You ever read the hate black conservatives get???

Stacy Dash is a good example..... Hell, how about Tim Scott not invited to speak at the MLK rally???

Like it or not MLK was a conservative - democrats at that time hated blacks.... Black politicans learned to use blacks later because they were growing in size and represented a large voting block.

As LBJ said in 1964: "I'll have every nigger voting democrat for the next 100 years."

Pre-1970 half of blacks voted republican and MLK was certainly a conservative......



It is not really hate--just disgust mostly... Tim Scott was invited but declined because of a prior commitment.. The 1960s was a time of great change in this country and people voted for the candidate that they thought would be the most beneficial to them and to the country. Most Southern Blacks were Republican, but John F Kennedy brought changes in that arena and Johnson put the icing on the cake.. Democrats in the South were called Dixiecrats and eventually became Republicans...
 
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No it's not. The only way that Martin Luther King wouldn't be labeled an Uncle Tom, is if he turned out to be a big-a-fraud as the rest of civil rights industry CEO's.


You are not going to bait me on this issue, even if X-F told you to do so...:2razz: Dr. King was for real. He was authentic. He put his life on the line every time he walked out a door.. He was respected by most and feared by many...You really should feel ashamed..
 
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He preached nonviolence, he practiced nonviolence, he participated in nonviolent demonstrations. Where did he "not" walk the walk?

Well considering he loved prostitutes and plagiarism (among other inconsistencies with his philosophy)......

I never claimed he didn't practice nonviolence, nor did I claim he didn't participate in nonviolent protests - his speeches could spur a riot tho...

I'm judging his character not his message....

Also, peace is only logical to some extent - only if what you're asking for is reasonable. What MLK asked for in his generation was in fact reasonable however, what black folks ask for today IS NOT....
 
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