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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    P. Kersey, You just cannot clump a whole group of people into a box....Do the people of Appalachia compare to the. folks of Manhattan? No, you cannot compare them, just as you cannot compare folks in the ghetto with the folks in Brooklyn.... Many, many people get out of the ghettos and go forward in life... Many do not...That's life... Education is the key... After school programs, art programs, music and sports programs...better schools..better teachers...NOT cutting back on education programs..
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Libbos do it all the time.
    I made my point quite well.
    What you're seeing there is evasion and deflection. No problem. I win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    I made my point quite well.
    What you're seeing there is evasion and deflection. No problem. I win.
    It's to be expected.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    I made my point quite well.
    What you're seeing there is evasion and deflection. No problem. I win.
    You say you are posting the facts, but you have not yet explained what argument you are trying to make about African American culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    You say you are posting the facts, but you have not yet explained what argument you are trying to make about African American culture.
    cite a post or a quote and we can discuss it.

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    Re: Crowds gather for March on Washington 50th anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No. Your comment indicated that this was a regional issue, not a partisan one, considering you said "Many Democrats living in the North, though not all, sided with Lincoln." I agree; it was regional, not partisan. And, so you know, the Democrats at the time were states' rightsers. That means they were conservatives.
    The Republicans (who supported freedom) won the North and the Democrats (who supported slavery) won the South. That is clear. When the Democrats won the entire South and supported slavery, while the Republicans won the entire North, it was clearly partisan. Following the 1860 election, which i pointed to, they soon fought a civil war over the issue. Can you really get more 'partisan' than that??

    We're discussing slavery and the American Civil War. How can that Civil War, which consumed the entire nation, be a "regional issue"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The Republicans (who supported freedom) won the North and the Democrats (who supported slavery) won the South. That is clear. When the Democrats won the entire South and supported slavery it was clearly partisan. Following the 1860 election, which i pointed to, they soon fought a civil war over the issue. Can you really get more 'partisan' than that??
    Yet you also stated that NORTHERN Democrats supported Lincoln. This demonstrates exactly what I said. It was a SECTIONAL issue, not a partisan one. This is very clear, both by what I said and what YOU said.

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    Re: Crowds gather for March on Washington 50th anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Yet you also stated that NORTHERN Democrats supported Lincoln. This demonstrates exactly what I said. It was a SECTIONAL issue, not a partisan one. This is very clear, both by what I said and what YOU said.
    Some northern Democrats may have supported Lincoln and some Southern Republicans might have supported slavery. That shouldn't be too hard to understand. I was trying to be kind.

    So now you've moved from a 'regional issue' to a SECTIONAL issue, which is fine if you're debating your choice of living room furniture with your livr-in partner.

    But this is called the American Civil War because it involved the entire country, not regions of it or sections of it. And the fact of the matter remains that the Democrats supported slavery and the Republicans, like today, supported freedom and the idea that all people should be treated as equals. The Democrats (or liberals or leftists) then as now, do not feel Black people are capable of looking after themselves and should be treated as something less than adults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Some northern Democrats may have supported Lincoln and some Southern Republicans might have supported slavery. That shouldn't be too hard to understand. I was trying to be kind.

    So now you've moved from a 'regional issue' to a SECTIONAL issue, which is fine if you're debating your choice of living room furniture with your livr-in partner.
    I am using regional and sectional interchangeably. Consider them the same.

    But this is called the American Civil War because it involved the entire country, not regions of it or sections of it. And the fact of the matter remains that the Democrats supported slavery and the Republicans, like today, supported freedom and the idea that all people should be treated as equals. The Democrats (or liberals or leftists) then as now, do not feel Black people are capable of looking after themselves and should be treated as something less than adults.
    This is entirely erroneous. Firstly, as I pointed out, Democrats of the time were for states rights. If we use that as a benchmark for determining their lean, they were conservatives, not liberals. Further, if we look at this today, we can easily see that it is extreme conservatives who are the biggest racists in America. Go to stormfront and find out how many liberals are there. Continuing, you have failed to prove that the Civil War was anything BUT a regional issue... you know, North verses South? Pretty basic stuff here, Grant. The fact that Democrats were in the South is related to they being for states rights. This was not a partisan issue, but a regional issue.
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    Ah yes. He definitely sounds different depending on the color of the audience.
    not unlike southern politicians who talk midwestern in DC and with a twangy drawl back home.
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