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    Re: Crowds gather for March on Washington 50th anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I suppose you don't have a link to that, do you?
    I think that's actually true, but it's something from the 1860's or 1870's after blacks were emancipated.
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    Re: Crowds gather for March on Washington 50th anniversary

    We seem to have conflicting reports.Conservative blacks irritated with liberal flavor of MLK march anniversary - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com

    I have no idea if Clarence Thomas made the list of invited speakers. My guess is he did not since he has not been involved with the civil rights movement throughout his career.
    Not involved in the Civil Rights Movement?? If anyone typifies the success of the 'Civil Rights Movement' it's Clarence Thomas. The Civil Rights Movement is now but an arm of the Democratic Party. The only thing that's missing is success.
    Correct. Most were voted out of office, died off, or left the Democratic Party for the Republican Party. Those that did stick around such as Robert Byrd apologized for their past actions and worked to correct mistakes made in the past.
    He apologized for being a member of the KKK leader, recruiter, and trying to enlarge the Mnemosyne across the USA. Would any Republican caught with such a past be acceptable to the Democrats? Look what happened to Trent Lott for one remark, much less a career in the KKK.

    Dixiecrat is a term that originated during Senator Strom Thormond's run for President in 1948. Since then, historians have used it to describe southern Democrats that sided against civil rights during the 1960s. George Wallace, whom Ray liked, was that type of Democrat.
    That would be Democrat 'historians'. But George Wallace was running under the banner of the Democrats, not the 'Dixiecrats' and those who were against Civil Rights called themselves Democrats.

    He did so well with the Democratic Party nationally that he came nowhere near the nomination in 1964, had to run as a third party candidate in 1968, and won only two primaries in 1972 after an assassination attempt against his life was almost successful.
    Right. A racist Democrat and he won two primaries.

    Speech by George C. Wallace The Civil Rights Movement fraud, sham and hoax 1964 < 1951- < Documents < American History From Revolution To Reconstruction and beyond

    That is a link to George Wallace's most famous speech against civil rights. In it he rails against the federal governemnt, left-wing liberals, the liberal media, the Supreme Court, etc... in defense of liberty and the Constitution. The issues have changed since then, but his rhetoric is similar to that of the Tea Party.
    Another indefensible and divisive slur against American people who, unlike the Democrats, are not involved in racial politics and never have been.
    And if you think Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican, you ought to spend more time studying him. He considered himself a social democrat and called for a bigger welfare state than what even Democrats today are calling for. Back then conservatives considered him a communist and a threat to the country. If he were alive today, conservatives probably would view him the same way.
    He was a Republican, not a Democrat.

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    Re: Crowds gather for March on Washington 50th anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I think that's actually true, but it's something from the 1860's or 1870's after blacks were emancipated.
    Lincoln thought it might be a good idea, too.
    During the Civil War, he organized the Bureau of Emigration within the Department of Interior. The sum earmarked was $600,000, a huge amount at the time and considering the tremendous war efforts.
    This Bureau was appropriated with the recolonization and emigration of the African slaves.
    Two attempts to do this were made with the actual establishment of a colony at Isle-a-Vache, in Haiti, consisting of 453 slaves transported from Virginia. Later, another attempt failed to colonize them in Colombia, South America.

    Liberia was established by citizens of the United States as a colony for former African American slaves.
    It is one of only two sovereign states in the world that were started by citizens of a political power as a colony for former slaves of the same political power: Sierra Leone was begun as a colony for resettlement of Black Loyalists and poor blacks from England for the same purpose by Britain.

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    Re: Crowds gather for March on Washington 50th anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I think that's actually true, but it's something from the 1860's or 1870's after blacks were emancipated.
    It wasn't the policy of either political party, and certainly not the Republicans as Rocket88 claimed. It wouldn't make sense because they had a strong power base there.

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    Re: Crowds gather for March on Washington 50th anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    Lincoln thought it might be a good idea, too.
    During the Civil War, he organized the Bureau of Emigration within the Department of Interior. The sum earmarked was $600,000, a huge amount at the time and considering the tremendous war efforts.
    This Bureau was appropriated with the recolonization and emigration of the African slaves.
    Two attempts to do this were made with the actual establishment of a colony at Isle-a-Vache, in Haiti, consisting of 453 slaves transported from Virginia. Later, another attempt failed to colonize them in Colombia, South America.

    Liberia was established by citizens of the United States as a colony for former African American slaves.
    It is one of only two sovereign states in the world that were started by citizens of a political power as a colony for former slaves of the same political power: Sierra Leone was begun as a colony for resettlement of Black Loyalists and poor blacks from England for the same purpose by Britain.
    Yes, there were something like 20,000 who went to Liberia but of their own free will. The great majority of American Black people felt American.

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    Re: Crowds gather for March on Washington 50th anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, there were something like 20,000 who went to Liberia but of their own free will. The great majority of American Black people felt American.
    ..LMAO..and surprise! they are "racists" and bigots in liberia...
    History of Liberia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Relations between colonists and natives were contentious from the founding of Liberia, and eventually led to the overthrow of the Americo-Liberian regime in 1980.


    LMFAO....
    The Americo-Liberians had been cut off from their African cultural inheritance by the conditions of slavery, and were entirely acculturated to contemporary Euro-America society. They were of mixed African and European ancestry and therefore generally lighter-skinned than the indigenous blacks. Crucially, they had absorbed beliefs in the religious superiority of Protestant Christianity, the cultural superiority of European civilization, and the aesthetic superiority of European skin color and hair texture.

    They created a social and material facsimile of American society in Liberia, maintaining their English-speaking, Americanized way of life, and building churches and houses resembling those of the Southern U.S.

    The Americo-Liberians never constituted more than five percent of the population of Liberia, yet they controlled key resources that allowed them to dominate the local native peoples: access to the ocean, modern technical skills, literacy and higher levels of education, and valuable relationships with many American institutions, including the American government.

    Ironically, one aspect of American society that the Americo-Liberians recreated was a cultural and racial caste system—however, in this case with themselves at the top instead of the bottom.


    but...but..blacks can't be racists and bigots..can they? shocking!..


    During World War II thousands of indigenous Liberians came from the nation's interior to the coastal regions in search of jobs. The Liberian Government had long opposed this kind of migration, but was no longer able to restrain it.

    In the decades after 1945, the Liberian government received hundreds of millions of dollars of unrestricted foreign investment, which destabilized the Liberian economy. Liberian Government revenue rose enormously, but was being grossly embezzled by government officials. Growing economic disparities caused increased hostility between indigenous groups and Americo-Liberians.

    The social tensions led President Tubman to enfranchise the indigenous Liberians either in 1951 or 1963 (accounts differ). Regardless of the date, this was enfranchisement in name only, since Tubman continued to repress political opposition, and to rig elections.

    President Tolbert (1971–80) continued to suppress opposition harshly. Dissatisfaction over governmental plans to raise the price of rice in 1979 led to protest demonstrations in the streets of Monrovia. Tolbert ordered his troops to fire on the demonstrators, and seventy people were killed. Rioting ensued throughout Liberia, finally leading to a military coup d'état in April 1980.

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    Re: Crowds gather for March on Washington 50th anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by P. Kersey View Post
    ..LMAO..and surprise! they are "racists" and bigots in liberia...
    History of Liberia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Relations between colonists and natives were contentious from the founding of Liberia, and eventually led to the overthrow of the Americo-Liberian regime in 1980.


    LMFAO....
    The Americo-Liberians had been cut off from their African cultural inheritance by the conditions of slavery, and were entirely acculturated to contemporary Euro-America society. They were of mixed African and European ancestry and therefore generally lighter-skinned than the indigenous blacks. Crucially, they had absorbed beliefs in the religious superiority of Protestant Christianity, the cultural superiority of European civilization, and the aesthetic superiority of European skin color and hair texture.

    They created a social and material facsimile of American society in Liberia, maintaining their English-speaking, Americanized way of life, and building churches and houses resembling those of the Southern U.S.

    The Americo-Liberians never constituted more than five percent of the population of Liberia, yet they controlled key resources that allowed them to dominate the local native peoples: access to the ocean, modern technical skills, literacy and higher levels of education, and valuable relationships with many American institutions, including the American government.

    Ironically, one aspect of American society that the Americo-Liberians recreated was a cultural and racial caste system—however, in this case with themselves at the top instead of the bottom.


    but...but..blacks can't be racists and bigots..can they? shocking!..


    During World War II thousands of indigenous Liberians came from the nation's interior to the coastal regions in search of jobs. The Liberian Government had long opposed this kind of migration, but was no longer able to restrain it.

    In the decades after 1945, the Liberian government received hundreds of millions of dollars of unrestricted foreign investment, which destabilized the Liberian economy. Liberian Government revenue rose enormously, but was being grossly embezzled by government officials. Growing economic disparities caused increased hostility between indigenous groups and Americo-Liberians.

    The social tensions led President Tubman to enfranchise the indigenous Liberians either in 1951 or 1963 (accounts differ). Regardless of the date, this was enfranchisement in name only, since Tubman continued to repress political opposition, and to rig elections.

    President Tolbert (1971–80) continued to suppress opposition harshly. Dissatisfaction over governmental plans to raise the price of rice in 1979 led to protest demonstrations in the streets of Monrovia. Tolbert ordered his troops to fire on the demonstrators, and seventy people were killed. Rioting ensued throughout Liberia, finally leading to a military coup d'état in April 1980.
    I'm in an area of the world right now where Hispanic bigotry against other Hispanics is what we would have expected from Nazi Germany. It's everywhere.

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    Re: Crowds gather for March on Washington 50th anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'm in an area of the world right now where Hispanic bigotry against other Hispanics is what we would have expected from Nazi Germany. It's everywhere.
    it's how humans operate. They always have and they always will...Young, naive, short sighted people have these fanciful ideas and think they can change human nature..LMAO.

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    Re: Crowds gather for March on Washington 50th anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I suppose you don't have a link to that, do you?
    Seriously, you've never heard that about Abraham Lincoln?

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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Crowds gather for March on Washington 50th anniversary

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It wasn't the policy of either political party, and certainly not the Republicans as Rocket88 claimed. It wouldn't make sense because they had a strong power base there.
    Lincoln wasn't a Republican?


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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