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Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

There was a war in Cyprus?

Yes... in the 1970s. Dont they teach you history in the US?.. oh wait you are in Texas, that answers my question..

OK but if it was sanctioned by the UN, and the coalition that fought the war comprised of 34 countries, what is the difference? The US still had nearly 80% of the troops in that war, even though it wasn't our problem. Europe barely lifted a finger.

Lets see, the US has the biggest military force, so yea you had most of the troops.. man math can be hard. Saying that Europe barely lifted a finger is a massive insult to all the European troops who died in the conflict.. shame on you.

Good, so you admit the US pays the most for the UN, more than any other country.

Never denied it. But that does not mean you have the most say in the UN and that is how it should be.... after all states like Idaho and Kentucky are a drain on the US economy, but dont have less of a say than California or Texas.. do they now..

No, the UN would become irrelevant. It would become a bunch of talking heads that nobody listens to, much like the EU of today only with a few third world countries added.

Ahh was waiting for your usual attack against the EU.. The UN was designed to be a forum for a "bunch of talking heads"... so they are living up to their purpose. It is people like you, that think the UN is the world police force that is at the will of the American empire to do anything the American empire wants it to do... well it aint.

I'm not being arrogant, I'm being realistic. The United States is the world's only superpower. It is the strongest nation to ever exist in the history of the world. We are comparatively stronger than the Roman Empire was at the height of its power, stronger than the British Empire, stronger than every single country in the entire continent of Europe combined.

LOL you are being mega arrogant. Take out the technological aspect, and the US is nothing but a footnote compared to the Romans... an empire that lived for over 1000 years. The US is not even 300 years old and it is only in the last 50 years it has been powerful and relevant and already that is declining big time. Even the British Empire lasted longer...
 
How was it the British Pete.....when the French just like with Libya, officially recognized the Syria Rebels first before all others and was the Very First pushing for Armed Intervention?

Can you explain how the French could Officially recognize AQ, the MB and Al Nusra? Don't you think the French should be Punished for making such a Universal and Colossal mistake in the world. Shouldn't the French have to suffer the error of their ways.

Wtf are you babbling about? The French recognized the Syria opposition, not AQ, the MB or Al Nusra. Talk about irrational hate towards the French gezz. Grow up, you would not have a nation if it was not for the French.
 
Wtf are you babbling about? The French recognized the Syria opposition, not AQ, the MB or Al Nusra. Talk about irrational hate towards the French gezz. Grow up, you would not have a nation if it was not for the French.


What the hell are you talking about? They Recognized the Opposition.....the Opposition are those groups. Without them the FSA is nothing and could never defeat Assad on their own.

Oh that's the French's claim to fame they came to help out.....almost 250 years ago. So how long did you think that could be accounted for. Payback came with WWII. The French still have a Country they can call their own.

What have they done for us lately.....except get the West all off into Conflicts since they are unable to handle any business on their own, other than some 3rd world country. Other than cause others to use up their supplies and their Military hardware. While always running into the UN to stir some more **** up.

It's real simple Pete.....if the French think they should go and punish someone. How about they get off their Damn ass and go do it on their own. Not rely on others to bail them out.
 
What the hell are you talking about? They Recognized the Opposition.....the Opposition are those groups. Without them the FSA is nothing and could never defeat Assad on their own.

They are far from only those groups and you know it.

Oh that's the French's claim to fame they came to help out.....almost 250 years ago. So how long did you think that could be accounted for. Payback came with WWII. The French still have a Country they can call their own.

Fine so you are even with them..

What have they done for us lately...

Why should they do anything for you.. why should ANYONE do anything for you?

except get the West all off into Conflicts since they are unable to handle any business on their own,

what conflicts?

Other than cause others to use up their supplies and their Military hardware.

wtf are you babbling about? Mali again? You do know that it was a matter of hours before a total victory for the AL Q groups?

While always running into the UN to stir some more **** up.

Give us examples.. you state "always"... so there must be more than one..

It's real simple Pete.....if the French think they should go and punish someone. How about they get off their Damn ass and go do it on their own. Not rely on others to bail them out.

The French think they should punish someone? It is the British and Americans that have been leading the charge.

This about Iraq.. your hatred.. they refused to follow you and you are still pissed... especially since they were right the whole time about the WMD.
 
Wtf are you babbling about? The French recognized the Syria opposition, not AQ, the MB or Al Nusra. Talk about irrational hate towards the French gezz. Grow up, you would not have a nation if it was not for the French.

How can you say that with a straight face?!?! The Syrian opposition IS AQ, MB and Al Nusra.
 
They are far from only those groups and you know it.



Fine so you are even with them..



Why should they do anything for you.. why should ANYONE do anything for you?



what conflicts?



wtf are you babbling about? Mali again? You do know that it was a matter of hours before a total victory for the AL Q groups?



Give us examples.. you state "always"... so there must be more than one..



The French think they should punish someone? It is the British and Americans that have been leading the charge.

This about Iraq.. your hatred.. they refused to follow you and you are still pissed... especially since they were right the whole time about the WMD.

Those groups make up the Majority of the Opposition.....are you trying to deny this?


France eyes new UN resolution on Mali
France eyes new UN resolution on Mali | Nation & World | The Seattle Times

France asks U.N. council to sanction Ivory Coast's Gbagbo
France asks U.N. council to sanction Ivory Coast's Gbagbo | Reuters

http://www.france24.com/en/20110405-un-french-forces-attack-gbagbo-bases-ivory-coast

The French, the UN and the Ivory Coast
The French, the UN and the Ivory Coast - Nigeria Village Square

France's Hollande urges UN action on Central African Republic
France's Hollande urges UN action on Central African Republic - News - World - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1970 Libya.
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1970 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

France Presses for New UN Resolution on Syria
France is pushing to renegotiate a United Nations resolution on ending the violence in Syria after the measure was rejected by Russia and China earlier this month. The initiative comes ahead of a non-binding vote by the U.N. General Assembly on the Syrian crisis.

That measure is expected to accuse Syria of rights violations and urge the government to stop its deadly crackdown on the 11-month opposition uprising against President Assad......snip~

France Presses for New UN Resolution on Syria



France says 'ready to punish' Syria regime....

French President Francois Hollande upped the ante on Syria Tuesday, pledging to "punish" the regime over suspected chemical attacks and boost military support for the opposition.

"France is ready to punish those who took the vile decision to gas innocent people," he said in a televised speech, pointing the finger of blame at President Bashar al-Assad's regime.....snip~

France says 'ready to punish' Syria regime

What Happened here Pete.....did you think it wa all hidden? Cmon now......you know the French's intel isn't that good at all.

That enough for ya Pete.....do you think it is high time that France quit trying to get off into things they cannot handle on their own? These are Right off the Top. Doesn't include any others they have filed with the UN.

Here is one....maybe we should Kick France out of the Security Council. Since truthfully.....everyone else is holding them up so they can be relevant in this world Today!
 
Oh Wiki! Now that's an authority.
 
Those groups make up the Majority of the Opposition.....are you trying to deny this?

A majority? Yes. There are up to 40 member organisations of the Syrian opposition.

France eyes new UN resolution on Mali
France eyes new UN resolution on Mali | Nation & World | The Seattle Times

France asks U.N. council to sanction Ivory Coast's Gbagbo
France asks U.N. council to sanction Ivory Coast's Gbagbo | Reuters

http://www.france24.com/en/20110405-un-french-forces-attack-gbagbo-bases-ivory-coast

The French, the UN and the Ivory Coast
The French, the UN and the Ivory Coast - Nigeria Village Square

France's Hollande urges UN action on Central African Republic
France's Hollande urges UN action on Central African Republic - News - World - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1970 Libya.
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1970 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

France Presses for New UN Resolution on Syria
France is pushing to renegotiate a United Nations resolution on ending the violence in Syria after the measure was rejected by Russia and China earlier this month. The initiative comes ahead of a non-binding vote by the U.N. General Assembly on the Syrian crisis.

That measure is expected to accuse Syria of rights violations and urge the government to stop its deadly crackdown on the 11-month opposition uprising against President Assad......snip~

France Presses for New UN Resolution on Syria



France says 'ready to punish' Syria regime....

French President Francois Hollande upped the ante on Syria Tuesday, pledging to "punish" the regime over suspected chemical attacks and boost military support for the opposition.

"France is ready to punish those who took the vile decision to gas innocent people," he said in a televised speech, pointing the finger of blame at President Bashar al-Assad's regime.....snip~

France says 'ready to punish' Syria regime

What Happened here Pete.....did you think it wa all hidden? Cmon now......you know the French's intel isn't that good at all.

That enough for ya Pete.....do you think it is high time that France quit trying to get off into things they cannot handle on their own? These are Right off the Top. Doesn't include any others they have filed with the UN.

Here is one....maybe we should Kick France out of the Security Council. Since truthfully.....everyone else is holding them up so they can be relevant in this world Today!

God your hatred knows no bounds. First off most of those resolutions were in relation to UN peacekeeping or interventions that were already going on.

Secondly yes France has been at the forefront of asking for action, I have never denied this, and it is no wonder considering Syria is a former colony. But so what? Are you pissed that it is not the US leading the charge from the start? That Obama is weak? That people dont trust the US because Iraq? Deal with it.
 
Oh Wiki! Now that's an authority.

Its a list, nothing more. Are you seriously saying that the list is lying? That the Coalition of Secular and Democratic Syrians is not part of the opposition? That the Syrin Democratic Peoples Party is not? Or any of the other names on the lists?
 
A majority? Yes. There are up to 40 member organisations of the Syrian opposition.



God your hatred knows no bounds. First off most of those resolutions were in relation to UN peacekeeping or interventions that were already going on.

Secondly yes France has been at the forefront of asking for action, I have never denied this, and it is no wonder considering Syria is a former colony. But so what? Are you pissed that it is not the US leading the charge from the start? That Obama is weak? That people dont trust the US because Iraq? Deal with it.



No.....I am not pist because the US isn't leading. I am pist because the US didn't tell France to STFU and Deal with any Conflict themselves. Without US assistance. Without using our **** and without getting our people killed for the adventures.

So you deny that the Majority are made up of Terrorists.....oh well, hate to burst that one open. Although not really. :lol:

Syrian rebels defy US and pledge allegiance to jihadi group
Rebel groups across Syria are defying the United States by pledging their allegiance to a group that Washington will designate today a terrorist organization for its alleged links to al-Qaeda
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A total of 29 opposition groups, including fighting "brigades" and civilian committees, have signed a petition calling for mass demonstrations in support of Jabhat al-Nusra, an Islamist group which the White House believes is an offshoot of al-Qaeda in Iraq.

The petition is promoting the slogan "No to American intervention, for we are all Jabhat al-Nusra" and urges supporters to "raise the Jabhat al-Nusra flag" as a "thank you".

"These are the men for the people of Syria, these are the heroes who belong to us in religion, in blood and in revolution," read a statement widely circulated on Syrian opposition Facebook pages.

Although Jabhat al-Nusra remains separate from the Free Syrian Army, many FSA leaders now recognise its strength and order their forces to cooperate with it.

Even mainstream opposition activists expressed anger at what they claimed was America's last-minute attempt to "muscle in on their revolution".

EU leaders including William Hague, the Foreign Secretary, met the heads of the coalition in Brussels yesterday, having already recognised it as "the legitimate representative of the aspirations of the Syrian people".

Opposition fighters inside Syria told The Daily Telegraph that the US announcement was too little too late, and that any attempts by the West to intervene in Syria would be rejected. "We don't support the new FSA military command," said Ous al-Arabi, a spokesman of the Deir al-Zour Revolutionary council.....snip~

Syrian rebels defy US and pledge allegiance to jihadi group - Telegraph



You were saying something about numbers now.....Right? Think we have exact total of all these Groups? Think we know who is behind this Council yet?

Deir al-Zour Revolutionary council. <<<<< This one?

From your own total of 40.....that only gives the FSA 11 opposition groups. Oh and the MB is releasing another inside Syria too. So make that 30 for the Terrorists.
 
Its a list, nothing more. Are you seriously saying that the list is lying? That the Coalition of Secular and Democratic Syrians is not part of the opposition? That the Syrin Democratic Peoples Party is not? Or any of the other names on the lists?

I'm saying that the original peaceful protests in Syria nearly three years ago were hijacked. Western interests have wanted regime change for years and they have been running CIA training camps in Jordan and elsewhere, training and arming the jihadists that have been committing crimes against civilians across the country.
 
I'm saying that the original peaceful protests in Syria nearly three years ago were hijacked. Western interests have wanted regime change for years and they have been running CIA training camps in Jordan and elsewhere, training and arming the jihadists that have been committing crimes against civilians across the country.

So there was a legitimate secular uprising but the American preference was a Jihadi one which they've been training for years to steal it from the secularists?
 
So there was a legitimate secular uprising but the American preference was a Jihadi one which they've been training for years to steal it from the secularists?

That makes no sense.
 
No.....I am not pist because the US isn't leading. I am pist because the US didn't tell France to STFU and Deal with any Conflict themselves. Without US assistance. Without using our **** and without getting our people killed for the adventures.

Who said anything about Americans being put in harms way? You're just pissed because X-Box games might cost an extra dollar?
 
You mean the Americans will work from the safety of the 10th floor of the CIA building in Florida with their command screen remotely piloting a drone dropping their ordinance while eating a Twinkie and sipping coffee.
 
Who said anything about Americans being put in harms way? You're just pissed because X-Box games might cost an extra dollar?

"Say what" little younger brutha"
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......did your Local TV guide remind you of the Ships that we just put there. Assad has cruise missiles. They are in range. Unless you can use your Play-station Controller and move them out.

But do and try and keep up little younger brutha. Now go make me a sammich and get me some coffee.
 
hahaha

Ok, just for fun, let's see your source.

NP :lol: Now lets laugh together. :lamo

In fact, Assad’s boast might be more than bluster. While there’s no sign that Moscow has delivered the long-range S-300 missiles that Israel has vowed to take out in bombing strikes (Russian officials estimate their earliest delivery date for the S-300s is late this year), Assad already has several air-defense systems from Moscow in his quiver, according to analysts who monitor arms shipments. In interviews they say they watched a steep military ramp-up by Syria in the period running up to the start of the war more than two years ago. While they agree that the S-300s are more accurate and have greater range than Assad’s current weapons systems, they say the Syrian leader is far from powerless without them. “We have seen over the past few years Russia supplying several different air-defense systems,” says Pieter Wezeman, senior researcher in the arms-transfer program of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, which tracks weapons flows worldwide. “They [Syrian government] have really increased their capability. The missiles are both short and long range. If the S-300s do arrive, that would top it all off.”

Among the missiles already in place are two regiments of S-200 surface-to-air missiles, which have a range of about 150 miles, “with no less than 240 missiles ready to be fired in a matter of minutes,” says Igor Sutyagin, a Russian military scientist and senior researcher at the London think tank, Royal United Services Institute. Sutyagin, who was jailed in Russia on charges of spying for the U.S. and freed as part of a spy-prisoner swap in 2010, says Assad “has a lot” of air-defense systems acquired from Russia, including between 12 and 20 short-range missile systems called Pantsyr-S, which have a range of about 7.5 miles and which can be mounted on vehicles. Those were delivered to Syria about a year ago, in what he believes is the latest confirmed arms shipment from Moscow. In addition, Assad has 1,200 air-defense guns and between 4,000 and 8,000 Strela portable shoulder-fired missiles. “That IS the GREAT stockpile of Russian air defense weaponry.

Since Syrian rebels have no airplanes for Syrian forces to shoot down, Assad’s impressive air-defense arsenal has little bearing on the grueling war that has ravaged large parts of the country and killed an estimated 90,000 Syrians. But the antiaircraft weapons would be crucial if the U.N. voted to impose a no-fly zone over Syria or if Israel expands its sporadic strikes on Syria into a sustained bombing campaign. At that point, the S-300 missiles, which have a longer range and greater accuracy than Assad’s current weaponry, could inflict bigger losses and strike deep into Israel in retaliation — hence, Israel’s fury over the arms deal. With the S-300s in place, says Wezeman, “If Israel starts an air campaign, they would maybe lose a few more planes than they have until now. It is not a system which cannot be destroyed, but it would be a bigger campaign,” he says.

Syria’s military arsenal presents the West with a far different calculus, in part explaining why no Western country has intervened militarily so far. While Gaddafi had huge stocks of weaponry, including Russian and Chinese antiaircraft missiles, much of it was discovered after Gaddafi was killed in October 2011, lying unused in warehouses. That suggested that the Libyan military did not know how to install the new weapon systems or had not had time to do so, according to military analysts. And Assad could also have learned some lessons from Gaddafi’s spectacular defeat. Gaddafi lacked long-range missiles capable of combating the high-altitude bombing strikes that NATO fighter jets conducted over Libya. “It’s against these types of operations that, for example, the S-300s or other SAMs [surface-to-air missiles] could be used with some efficiency,” Wezeman says. “In Libya the systems were old and out of date, and the Libyans did not really know how to operate them. It would be much more difficult for outsiders to intervene in Syria, in the way that took place in Libya.”.....snip~

Syria's Air-Defense Arsenal: Russian Missiles Keeping Assad in Power | TIME.com




Russia Steps Up Missile Sales to Syria

Not only will Russia make good on delivering advanced S-300 anti-missile batteries and surface-to-air missiles to Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime, it has also provided anti-ship cruise missiles with advanced guidance systems, the New York Times reported on Thursday.

According to the report, an upgraded version of the Yakhont anti-ship missiles is equipped with more advanced radar systems that will effectively prevent any foreign military intervention in Syria.

"It enables the regime to deter foreign forces looking to supply the opposition from sea or from undertaking a more active role if a no-fly zone or shipping embargo were to be declared at some point," the Times quoted IHS Jane's International Defense Review editor-in-chief Nick Brown. "It's a real ship killer."

Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal reported that Russia deployed at least a dozen warships to guard its naval base at Syria's Tartus port and provide further deterrence to any foreign intervention in the country's civil war.....snip~

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We have stealth planes. Spare me the "air defense".

You claimed they have cruise missiles capable of taking out ships. Got any evidence besides a NYT article?
 
We have stealth planes. Spare me the "air defense".

You claimed they have cruise missiles capable of taking out ships. Got any evidence besides a NYT article?


Yeah Right :roll: ......that's why the Pawns go first. :lol: Any more excuses now little younger brutha. :lamo



Report: Russia Sent Syria Super-Advanced S-300 Missiles

A report Thursday said that Russia has supplied Syria with advanced S-300 missiles, and has sent advisers to help Syria run the system.

Russian warships that have reached waters off Syria in recent days were carrying, among other things, Russian technical advisors who will help the Syrians set up an array of S-300 missiles Damascus has received in recent weeks, a report in the London-based Arabic language Al Quds-Al Arabi said Thursday. Citing sources in Syria and Russia, the paper said that Moscow sees a Western attack on Syria as a “red line” that it will not tolerate.

Along with the missiles, the report says that Russia has installed advanced radar systems in all key Syrian military and industrial installations. The radar system also covers areas north and south of Syria, where it will be able to detect movement of troops or aircraft towards the Syrian border. The radar targets include much of Israel, as well as the Incirlik military base in Turkey, which is used by NATO.

The S-300 system is regarded as one of the most potent anti-aircraft missile systems available. The system's radar is able to simultaneously track up to 100 targets while engaging up to 12. Deployment time for the S-300 is five minutes, and they have a very long life span, with no maintenance needed.....snip~

Report: Russia Sent Syria Advanced S-300 Missiles - Defense/Security - News - Israel National News


Still want to whine about some newsources? :lol: So much for Stealth. ;)
 
S-300s might bother Israel, but not the US. They can't stop stealth and they can't stop cruise missiles.
 
So... let's get this party started?
lemme see the shock n awe baby
hah all talk, no action
Wait isn't this the same guy that won the Nobel Peace Prize?
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S-300s might bother Israel, but not the US. They can't stop stealth and they can't stop cruise missiles.

Nothing like playing like Obama and Hoping for the best.....little brutha. ;)
 
Nothing like playing like Obama and Hoping for the best.....little brutha. ;)

Nothing like inventing BS to scare people into your perspective.
 
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