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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sure, just as well as we "confirmed" Assad carried out a chemical attack. Let me ask you, who has to say that the rebels fired on the UN inspectors in order for YOU to accept it as confirmed?
    I would need actual evidence.


    " Hey guys the UN inspectors are coming if they find evidence of our chemical weapons attack the US and her allies will join the war and my decades of rule will be over. Let the UN inspectors in but have one of our men pose as a rebel and shoot at them from afar".......

    See how easy that is. You guys need to get a grip and realise the man you are supporting is a dictator who is responsible for thousands of deaths and will do anything to hold onto power.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    and here was me thinking the civil war broke out on the back of the Arab spring with protesters demanding the resignation of President Bashar al-Assad, whose family has held the presidency in Syria since 1971.....
    Well.....ya should have looked who was behind the protest and funneling money and weapons to the Sunni Rebels. While calling for Assad to step down. Any reason the Christians and the Kurds weren't calling for Assad to step down?

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well.....ya should have looked who was behind the protest and funneling money and weapons to the Sunni Rebels. While calling for Assad to step down. Any reason the Christians and the Kurds weren't calling for Assad to step down?
    and the gov are supported by Hezbollah, Iran and Russia...Charming bunch I hear.
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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    I would need actual evidence.


    " Hey guys the UN inspectors are coming if they find evidence of our chemical weapons attack the US and her allies will join the war and my decades of rule will be over. Let the UN inspectors in but have one of our men pose as a rebel and shoot at them from afar".......

    See how easy that is. You guys need to get a grip and realise the man you are supporting is a dictator who is responsible for thousands of deaths and will do anything to hold onto power.
    Yeah, I would say the same thing to our feckless leaders about having actual evidence that Assad used the Chems. If they can't produce it......shouldn't they have to present their asses to the American people so all can give them a good kick Right where.....the Sun don't shine.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    and the gov are supported by Hezbollah, Iran and Russia...Charming bunch I hear.
    Yeah and the Rebels are supported by the MB.....terrorists. Then AQ.....terrorists. Then Al Nusra.....Terrorists. Then the Islamic Kurds.....Terrorists. Then some Traitors. Then the Sunni Muslims who kill Christians and push to expand that Sectarian Divide.

    Plus they in return are Supported by the Salafists and 29 Civilian Committees that want Sharia Law under governance.

    Looks like the Rebels have the Real Charmers. Including the Snake Charmers.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah and the Rebels are supported by the MB.....terrorists. Then AQ.....terrorists. Then Al Nusra.....Terrorists. Then the Islamic Kurds.....Terrorists. Then some Traitors. Then the Sunni Muslims who kill Christians and push to expand that Sectarian Divide.

    Plus they in return are Supported by the Salafists and 29 Civilian Committees that want Sharia Law under governance.

    Looks like the Rebels have the Real Charmers. Including the Snake Charmers.

    the Syrian Muslim brotherhood are not terrorists.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well here is what this professor is saying. Still how does Obama justify 820k per tomahawk with the military already being depleted. Which he will then have to replace what he fires. Hows that help us economically in that area. This is a big mistake. Syria or Russia can start **** elsewhere. But one thing is for certain. Russia is just luving getting us into this Proxy war. We lose credibility if we do something and if we don't.

    Yet we need to know who all the players are and who wont be round. Which we can't stop Syria from splitting into 3 separate regions. As they are already doing.

    Local Expert: Firing Cruise Missiles At Syria Would Be ‘Drive-By Shooting’

    We’re merely gonna to what I would call a drive-by shooting and will do some damage to the Syrian forces but it won’t shift the balance of power on the ground at all,” said Mearsheimer.

    So he’s suggesting retaliatory strikes by the U.S. be delayed, perhaps permanently.....snip~

    Local Expert: Firing Cruise Missiles At Syria Would Be
    Obama knows that this is simply a distraction, but the hawks get a bone and "the deal" will be to allow keeping "needed" military spending but in exchange to agree to back off on the demand for any "harsh" cuts to Obama's precious income redistirbution programs. The classic political win/win for everyone now (unless you are one of those folks that actually cares about the national debt).

    All of our congress critters get to say that they "saved" their district/state from the effects of "drastic" spending cuts, were tough on terrorism/genocide and Obama gets his debt "ceiling" raise and keeps PPACA from getting chopped back (more that he already did) as well. Besides, this also lets Obama "dis" Putin for obstructing the UNSC resolution (and his accepting of Snowden's asylum request) and lets the Nobel Peace Prize president end genocide in Syria by killing "bad folks" and getting rid of WMDs - all via remote control with no "boots on the ground".
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    You don't expect either Russia or China to veto?
    Not the point.. he is playing domestic politics. He has recalled Parliament to get approval, and one of the demands would be to attempt to get UN approval. In fact I would not be surprised one bit if the UK did not contribute, because Parliament said no.
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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    the Syrian Muslim brotherhood are not terrorists.


    ALL the Muslim Brotherhood.....are terrorists, and any that follow them. Try telling that to the Christians living in Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Yemen, and Libya.
    Last edited by MMC; 08-28-13 at 11:01 AM.

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    Re: Syria crisis: UK to put forward UN resolution

    I came on here wondering why this current Syria mess is not a UN problem, as opposed to a US problem, given the supposed strong evidence that Assad used chemical weapons in violation of the Convention agreement (although I don't think Syria signed off on it).

    In any event, what should the US role really be?

    Should we act as just another UN member state? Or independent of the UN?

    If the UN doesn't act, or at least pretend to, despite (or maybe because of) members like Russia or China, does that confirm the UN's uselessness?

    On the other hand, if we're entitled to act independently, should we consider something more selective ... and deniable ... like, oh, say, a bullet with a prearranged replacement waiting?

    Then we'll be surprised to find out our chosen replacement has their own baggage.

    Those Libyan & Egyptian adventures worked out well, huh.

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